On 27 Aug 1868 when Charlotte was 22, she married Arthur Rhys THOMAS, son of Robert THOMAS, in Reg Office, Leicester Reg Dist, Leicestershire, England. Born abt 1839 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. Arthur Rhys died ca 1876; he was 37.

- 1868 England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Arthur Rhys Thomas
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1868
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 330
Names on Page:
Charlotte Chambers
Ellen Curtis
Thomas Taylor
Arthur Rhys Thomas

- 1871 Wales census, living at 46 Wood Street, St Mary Parish, Cardiff, Glamorgan
Name Age
Arthur R Thomas 32 - head, mar, 32, clothier, Glamorgan Swansea
Charlotte Thomas 25 - wife, mar, 25, Kent Ashford
John Thomas 8 Weeks - son, 8 weeks, Glamorgan Cardiff

RESEARCH NOTES:
- his name was originally entered as William Ryse Thomas, born Cardiff, Wales [not proven]
- name listed as Arthur Rhys Thomas other sources and freeBMD and as Arthur R in 1871 census.

- family sources say his father’s name was Robert Thomas, but gives no further details. Not proven.

- c1841, the county of Glamorgan Wales has (abt) 118 parishes, grouped by 10 hundreds including Swansea - http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/hundred.Swansea.html
The hundred of Kibbor includes the parishes of Cardiff St John, Cardiff St Mary, Llandaff etc..

Thee are several versions of this story from family sources:
- Both his sons were orphaned when both his parents died of "galloping consumption" ... Ivor and Robert were orphaned and lived with their maternal grandparent and cared for by their Aunt Sarah Joyce.
- "I understand that her husband had left the family and when Ivor and Robert were left as orphans they went to live with their grandparents in Leicester."  ... “My mother said that her grandfather 'was a travelling salesman who kept on travelling' suggesting that he had left the family before Charlotte's death.”
Which version is true? Or a combination of both? We haven’t found any death record (at any date) for Arthur yet.

Can’t find his birth registraton freeBMD 1837-1850 in Glamorgan County:
- no listings at all for William Rhys [wrong name]
- searched for Arthur R: only 1 listing in Glamorgan County between 1837 - 1845:
Births Q1 Mar 1844
THOMAS Arthur Rhys Bridgend 26 331
(The district Bridgend in the county of Glamorgan, includes Newcastle etc)
Perhaps this was a late birth registration?
- broadening the search to just Arthur, there are the following bith possibilities:
Sep 1837, Thomas Arthur, Swansea, 26 296
Mar 1839, Thomas Arthur George, Swansea, 26 452
Dec 1841, Thomas Arthur, Llanelly, 26 540 [Llanelly spans Carmarthenshire & Glamorgan]
and as Rhys Thomas:
Jul-Sep 1837, Thomas Rhys, Llanelly Carmarthenshire, 26 332
others as Rhys in 1841, 1843 in Carmarthenshire
and as Rees Thomas:
Apr-Jun 1844, Rees Thomas, Swansea Glamorgan, 26 501
Apr-Jun 1844, Rees Thomas, Lampeter, Cardiganshire, 27 57
Jan-Mar 1839, Reese Thomas, Cardiff, Glamorgan, 26 329 … etc.

- checked for death registration on freeBMD 1870-1881 - nothing close for Arthur R in Leicester (:

- thought this site might be related but doesn’t include any details other than:
Ceredigion County Council - Thomas, Arthur Rhys [Ceredigion Authors T]
Thomas, Arthur Rhys. Cardigan. b. Cardigan.
Publications. Gwladus Williams : a thrilling narrative of Wales, Cardigan : J. R. James, 1868 ...
www.ceredigion.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=5888

In Q2 1868 when Sarah was 19, she married James JOYCE in Leicester Reg Dist, Leicestershire, England. Born in Q3 1849 in Leicester Reg Dist, Leicestershire, England. James died in Willesden Reg Dist, MIddlesex, England, in Q2 1923; he was 73.

- 1923 James died before his wife, who died 1936 in Willesden. So a likely death for James is:
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: James Joyce
Birth Date: abt 1850
Date of Registration: Jun 1923
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 232
[Note that there is an almost identical death for a James J Joyce also Jun 1923, age 74 in Southwark London, 1d 32]

RESEARCH NOTES:
- possibly born in Leicester

- He was stationmaster in Ashby de la Zouch Leicestershire
 
-1849 England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: James Joyce
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1849
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 15
Page: 113
OR
Births Sep 1849
JOYCE James Leicester 15 113
Joyce James Leicester 15 115
[lots of other choices in other districts such as London, Manchester, Winchester, Wareham, Leeds, St Lukes, Huntingdon, Westbury etc.]

- There is another James Joyce born abt 1848 in Seagrave Leicester who married an Alice Grayson in Sheffield in 1871 - lots of information on this family in the census. Seagrave is just north of Leicester near Barrow upon Loar and Loughborough.

On 13 Jul 1882 when William was 28, he married Annie Mary TARRY in King Richards 20 Wes. Meth. Chapel, Leicester, England. Born on 9 Jul 1859 in Buckingham, England. Annie Mary died in Leicester, England, on 27 Nov 1950; she was 91.

From other researchers:
- Daughter of William Tarry (c1827-1909) and Ruth Dumbleton (1827-1922) (further pedigree available)
- Annie Tarry
First name: Annie Known as:
Middle name: Mary Occupation:
Surname: Tarry Date of birth:
Year of birth: c1860 Date of baptism:
Gender: Female Year of death:
Date of death: Source of data:
Place of birth: LEICESTER Leicestershire England
Place of baptism:
Place of death:
Notes:
Spouse name: William Chambers
Place of marriage:
Date of marriage:
Divorced: No