Third Generation (Continued)
Ethel Annie CHAMBERS (William2, William1).
Born on 27 Sep 1884 in Leicester, Leicestershire, England. Ethel Annie died in Loughborough, Leicestershire, England, on 26 May 1968; she was 83. Buried in Broughton Astley Cemetery, Broughton Astley, Leicestershire, England.
- 1884 Registration: Births Dec 1884 (Q4)
Chambers Ethel Annie Leicester 7a 276
- 1891 census, living at Ivy Cottage, Ivy Road, Whitwick Leicestershire
Name Age
James Joyce 41 - head, M, 41, Colliery Clerk, employed, Liecestershire, Leicester
Sarah Joyce 42 - wife, M, 42, Kent Deal
Minnie Kate Joyce 18 - daur, S, 18, schoolmistress, employed Northamptonshire, Raunds
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Ethel Chambers 6 - niece, 6, scholar, Leicestershire, Leicester
- 1901 England census, living at 46 Western Road, Leicester
Name Age
William Chambers 46 - head M, 46, builder, own account, Kent Ashford
Annie M Chambers 41 - wife, M, 41, Bucks Buckingham
Ethel A Chambers 16 - daur, S, 16, Leicester
Wilfred E Chambers 8 - son, 8, Leicester
Sidney J Chambers 4 - son, 4, Leicester
Living next door at 48 Western Road:
James Joyce, head, M, 51, commercial traveler, Leicester
Sarah Joyce, wife, M, 52, Kent Deal
Alice E Joyce, daur, S, 32, shop assistant - confectiones[r?], Leicester
RESEARCH NOTES
From family sources:
- BIRTH: date may not be exact.
- 1906 MARRIAGE: in 1906; apparently they were 1st cousins
- FAMILY: father was a government official
- Ethel Chambers
First name: Ethel
Middle name: Annie
Surname: Chambers
Date of birth: 27/09/1884
Year of birth: 1884
Gender: Female Year of death: 1968
Date of death: 26/05/1968 Source of data:
Place of birth: LEICESTER Leicestershire England
Place of death: Southampton [wrong - see below]
Spouse name: Robert Thomas
Place of marriage: Leicester
Date of marriage: 10/11/1906
Divorced: No
- “Ethel died in m[y] mother's house [Ethel’s daughter Violet] in Loughborough not in Southampton. She lived with her daughter Joyce in Southampton but came and stayed with my mother because Joyce was going to Canada with a Health and Beauty group - they did exercises to music.”
[Loughborough is NNW of Leicester]
- “Robert and Ethel are buried in Broughton Astley cemetery - a small village where they lived in the 1940s.”
[Broughton Astley is in the Harborough District, Leicestershire, SW of Leicester]
Probable death registration:
- 1968 freeBMD Deaths Jun 1968
Thomas Ethel A 83 Loughboro 3a 712 [b abt 1885]
The district Loughborough spans the boundaries of the counties of Leicestershire and Nottinghamshire
On 10 Nov 1906 when Ethel Annie was 22, she married
Robert William “Bob” THOMAS (8) , son of Arthur Rhys THOMAS &
Charlotte CHAMBERS (2), in Leicester Reg Dist, Leicestershire, England.
Born on 25 Apr 1873 in Leicester, England. Robert William “Bob” died in England in 1945; he was 71. Buried in Broughton Astley Cemetery, Broughton Astley, Leicestershire, England.
- 1873 BIRTH: 2 years younger than brother Ivor.
Registration: Births (Q2) Jun 1873
Thomas Robert William Leicester 7a 250
- 1906 (spring) - he was likely the "RT" who sent a Chinese art postcard from Shanghai to a cousin "Miss Alice Joyce" in Leicester (there was no personal message, just a Chinese poem).
- 1906 Marriages Dec 1906
Chambers Ethel Annie Leicester 7a 594
Evans Henry Joseph Leicester 7a 594
GUMLEY Gertrude Leicester 7a 594
THOMAS Robert William Leicester 7a 594
[a photo was taken in the garden of the Chambers’ family home in 1906 - I don’t have it]
NOTE: Robert and Ethel were 1st cousins.
- 1921 Census of Canada
Name: Robert W Thomas
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 48
Birth Year: abt 1873
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Ethel A Thomas
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1892
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: British Columbia
District: Yale
District Number: 25
Sub-District: South Okanagan
Sub-District Number: 40
City, Town or Village: Kelowna
Street or Township: Kelowna
Municipality: Ethel St
Occupation: City Police
Income: 2100
Household Members:
Name Age - all Church of England
Robert W Thomas 48 - owns single wood house 5 or 6 rooms,head, M, M, 48, England, parents England, immig 1892, Canada, English, City Police
Ethel A Thomas 34 - wife, F, M, 34, England, parents England, immig 1912, Canada, English, none
Dorothy E Thomas 13 - daughter,F,S, 13, China, parents England, immig 1912 Nat, Canada, English, 9mo school
Reynold [Reginold] I Thomas 10 - son, M, S, 10, China, parents England, immig 1912 Nat, Canada, English, 9mo school
Arthur R Thomas 8 - son, M, S, 8, England, parents England, 1912, Canada, English, 9mo school
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Gerald O Thomas 7 - son, M, S, 7, Kelowna BC, parents England,Canada, English, 7mo school
Violet G Thomas 5 - daughter, F, S, 5, Kelowna BC, parents England, Canada, English
Winifred J Thomas 4 - daugher, F, S, 4, Kelowna BC, parents England, Canada, English
- 1929 UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Ship: "Canada", No. 6413, Johnson Line, reg 3411, 75ton, master Oscar Lindskag, from Tacoma to Stockholm. Date of Arrival Oct 17th 1929
Embarkation, Landed, Passenger Name, Proposed UK Address, Calls, Occupation, Age, Last Permanent Residence, Intended Future Res
Tacoma, LeiSh, Thomas, Robert William, Leicester England, 2nd, Chief of Police, 56, Canada, England, B na
Tacoma, LeiSh, Thomas, Ethel Annie, Leicester England, 2nd, housewife, 45, Canada, England, B na
Tacoma, LeiSh, Thomas, Dorothy Grace, Leicester England, 2nd, none, 21, Canada, England, B na
Tacoma, LeiSh, Thomas, Reginald Ivor, Leicester England, 2nd, ban clerk, 19, Canada, England, B na
Tacoma, LeiSh, Thomas, Arthur Rhys, Leicester England, 2nd, schoolboy, 17, Canada, England, B na
Tacoma, LeiSh, Thomas, Gerald Owen, Leicester England, 2nd schoolboy, 16, Canada, England, B na
Tacoma, LeiSh, Thomas, Violet Gladys, Leicester England, 2nd, schoolgirl, 13, Canada, England, B na
Tacoma, LeiSh, Thomas, Joyce Winifred, Leicester England, 2nd schoolgirl, 9, Canada, England, B na
RESEARCH NOTES
From family sources:
- EARLY YEARS: Was orphaned when 3 years old or so.
- WORK: policeman in China, and in Kelowna, BC
- MARRIAGE: originally entered as Kelowna, BC, Canada; other sources list Leicester England (KRR)
- Robert Thomas (1873-1945)
First name: Robert
Middle name: William
Surname: Thomas
Date of birth: 25/04/1873
Year of birth: 1873
Gender: Male Year of death: 1945
Place of birth: LEICESTER Leicestershire England
Spouse name: Ethel Chambers
Place of marriage: Leicester
Date of marriage: 10/11/1906
Divorced: No
- Robert was orphaned, separated from his brother and also sent out to Canada as a 'farm child' where he had been mistreated - probably why he didn't want to talk about it. Robert then went to Shanghai, where he was a policeman, with his wife Ethel, where their eldest children, Dorothy, Reginald and Gerald, were born. ... Robert and Ethel Thomas returned to Leicestershire where their son Arthur was born and then went to Kelowna BC, around the time of the first world war, and his wife and children followed, with a female relative to help her, when he was established. [Their daughters] Winifred Joyce, and her elder sister Violet were born in Kelowna. I believe Robert Thomas was in the police there as well. He developed a Chinese style garden there but sold up (the Depression?) and returned to Leicestershire in around 1930.
- Robert and Ethel are buried in Broughton Astley cemetery - a small village where they lived in the 1940s. Ethel died in mu mother's house in Loughborough not in Southampton. She lived with her daughter Joyce in Southampton but came and stayed with my mother because Joyce was going to Canada with a Health and Beauty group - they did exercises to music.
[Broughton Astley is in the Harborough District, Leicestershire, SW of Leicester]
[Loughborough is NNW of Leicester]
- 1904 From http://www.bris.ac.uk/history/customs/ancestors/1904deskhonglist_3.pdf, on page 331 (Who’s Who of Shanghai, 1904):
Thomas, R. W. ……Municipal Police
- 1919 Shanghai directory, under Municiple Police Dept (pg. 701&2), there were 23 Constables listed but not named. - http://www.bris.ac.uk/history/customs/ancestors/1919chroniclechina.pdf
BUT he had likely already moved to Canada (via England) at this point, judging by the birth locations and dates of his children.
- no marriages in BC for Robert Thomas or Ethel Chambers between 1890 and 1910 - they married in England.
- possible death if he moved back to England:
Deaths Jun 1945
Thomas Robert W 72 Lutterworth 7a 4
The district Lutterworth spans the boundaries of the counties of Leicestershire, Northamptonshire and Warwickshire
They had the following children:
i.
Dorothy Grace THOMAS (1907-1939)
ii.
Reginald Ivor THOMAS (1910-1999)
iii.
Arthur Rhys THOMAS (1912-1995)
iv.
Gerald Owen THOMAS (1913-1972)
v.
Violet Gladys THOMAS (1915-1999)
vi.
Winifred Joyce* THOMAS (1916-1995)
vii.
David THOMAS (-1920)
viii.
Robert William THOMAS (-1918)
Elsie Kate CHAMBERS (William2, William1).
Born in Q4 1889 in Leicester, England. Elsie Kate died in Leicester, England, on 6 Aug 1890; she was <1.
- Births Dec 1889 (Q4)
Chambers Elsie Kate Leicester 7a 281
- Deaths Sep 1890 (Q3)
Chambers Elsie Kate 0 Leicester 7a 158
Elsie Chambers
First name: Elsie Known as:
Middle name: Kate Occupation:
Surname: Chambers Date of birth:
Year of birth: 1888 Date of baptism:
Gender: Male Year of death: 1890
Date of death: 06/08/1890 Source of data:
Place of birth: LEICESTER Leicestershire England
Place of baptism:
Place of death:
Notes:
Wilfred Ernest CHAMBERS (William2, William1).
Born on 5 Oct 1892 in Leicester, England. Wilfred Ernest died on 13 Sep 1980; he was 87.
- 1892 Birth registration: Births Dec 1892 (Q4)
Chambers Wilfred Ernest Leicester 7a 271
- 1901 England census, living at 46 Western Road, Leicester
Name Age
William Chambers 46 - head M, 46, builder, own account, Kent Ashford
Annie M Chambers 41 - wife, M, 41, Bucks Buckingham
Ethel A Chambers 16 - daur, S, 16, Leicester
Wilfred E Chambers 8 - son, 8, Leicester
Sidney J Chambers 4 - son, 4, Leicester
Living next door at 48 Western Road:
James Joyce, head, M, 51, commercial traveler, Leicester
Sarah Joyce, wife, M, 52, Kent Deal
Alice E Joyce, daur, S, 32, shop assistant - confectiones[r?], Leicester
- 1911 England census, living at Woodland Tidy Rd, Leicester
Name Age
William Chambers 58 - head, 58, married 29yrs, 4 children 3 alive 1 died, carpenter & joiner, employer, Ashford Kent
Annie Mary Chambers 52 - wife 52, married 29yrs, 4 children 3 alive 1 died,Buckingham
Wilfred Ernest Chambers 18 - son, 18, single, carpenter & jointer, worker, Leicester
Sidney James Chambers 14 - son, 14, single, carpenter & jointer, worker, Leicester
- 1927 Marriage registration: Marriages Dec 1927 (Q4)
Chambers Wilfred E Richards Willesden 3a 652
RICHARDS Winifred A CHAMBERS Willesden 3a 652
- 1938 inherited part of father’s estate:
“CHAMBERS William of Glenfield Leicestershire died 30 July 1938 at 2 Swain Street Leicestere Probate Leicester 21 March [1939] to Wilfred Ernest Chambers builder and William Moore commercial clerk. Effects £460 8s 1d”
RESEARCH NOTES:
- Willesden is now in Greater London (NW section) as per google maps
- From another researcher: Wilfred Chambers
First name: Wilfred Known as:
Middle name: Ernest Occupation:
Surname: Chambers Date of birth: 03/10/1892
Year of birth: 1892 Date of baptism:
Gender: Male Year of death: 1980
Date of death: 13/09/1980 Source of data:
Place of birth: LEICESTER Leicestershire England
Place of baptism:
Place of death:
On 31 Oct 1927 when Wilfred Ernest was 35, he married Winifred Annie RICHARDS in Willesden, London, England. Born ca 1892.
RESEARCH NOTES:
- checked freeBMD for births in England/Wales - 11 possible registrations between 1890-1910!
They had the following children:
Sidney James CHAMBERS (William2, William1).
Born on 5 Feb 1897 in Leicester, England. Sidney James died in France on 3 May 1917; he was 20.
- 1897 Births Mar 1897 (Q1)
Chambers Sidney James Leicester 7a 326
- 1901 England census, living at 46 Western Road, Leicester
Name Age
William Chambers 46 - head M, 46, builder, own account, Kent Ashford
Annie M Chambers 41 - wife, M, 41, Bucks Buckingham
Ethel A Chambers 16 - daur, S, 16, Leicester
Wilfred E Chambers 8 - son, 8, Leicester
Sidney J Chambers 4 - son, 4, Leicester
Living next door at 48 Western Road:
James Joyce, head, M, 51, commercial traveler, Leicester
Sarah Joyce, wife, M, 52, Kent Deal
Alice E Joyce, daur, S, 32, shop assistant - confectiones[r?], Leicester
- 1911 England census, living at Woodland Tidy Rd, Leicester
Name Age
William Chambers 58 - head, 58, married 29yrs, 4 children 3 alive 1 died, carpenter & joiner, employer, Ashford Kent
Annie Mary Chambers 52 - wife 52, married 29yrs, 4 children 3 alive 1 died,Buckingham
Wilfred Ernest Chambers 18 - son, 18, single, carpenter & jointer, worker, Leicester
Sidney James Chambers 14 - son, 14, single, carpenter & jointer, worker, Leicester
RESEARCH NOTES:
- photocopied chart is cut of. He was born 5 Feb 18??, also missing.... in Fra..... 3 May 19??
- no deaths listed in freeBMD 1910-1920; likely killed oversees in the war. - record may be on ancestry.com
- From another researcher: Sidney Chambers
First name: Sidney Known as:
Middle name: James Occupation:
Surname: Chambers Date of birth: 05/021897
Year of birth: 1897 Date of baptism:
Gender: Male Year of death: 1917
Date of death: Source of data:
Place of birth: LEICESTER Leicestershire England
Place of baptism:
Place of death: France (missing)