Anthony LISLE & Elizabeth DORMER - 12 Generation Family Tree

Third Generation

Family of Sir William LISLE (2) & Bridget HUNGERFORD

3. Lord John LISLE (William2, Anthony1)

. Born in 1609 in Wootton, Isle Of Wight, England. John died in Lausanne, Switzerland, on 11 Aug 1664; he was 55.

- John DeInsula Vecta, (Isle of Wight) House of Lords, Temp Ed. II
of Wootton, Isle of Wight; shot in Lausanne
Regicide (Charles I), assassinated in Lausanne.
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From the book “The Regicide’s Widow, Lady Alice LIsle and the Bloody Assize” by Anthony Whitaker, published 2006
- 1632 - “For an ambitious lawyer, John Lisle’s first marriage, on 15 Feb 1632, to Mary Elizabeth Hobart, may not have been wholly uncalculating. The daughter of Sir Henry Hobart, Attorney-General and later Chief Justice of the Common Pleas under Jame I, she brought a substatial dowry. John’s godfather, Sir John Oglander, considered these advantages far outweighed her beauty: ‘Mr Lisle had with her 4,000 [pounds], the greatest portion that ever Isle of Wight man had, and he showed his masterpiece both in getting her, and in his will for marrying her, for she was none of the handsomest - as you may perceive by these lines made at her wedding:
Neither well-proportioned, fair nor wise:
All these defects four thousand poiunds supplies.’
Sir John noted that Sir William Lisle brought the money down from London ‘improvidently, with two men and himself, on tired horses in ready gold’. But on 15 Mar 1633, 8 months before John Lisle’s call to the Bar, Mary Elizabeth Lisle fell victim to ... childbirth. She died 4 days after the birth of their son William, who subsequently died in infancy.”
-1636 - On 23 Oct 1636 John Lisle, a widower aged 27 [born 1609] from the Isle of Wight, married Alice Beconsaw in the Ellingham parish church. John was the eldest son of a family who lived at Wootton and owned extensive estate there. His father was Sir William Lisle, a dissolute but engaging individual whose main recreations were the bottle and the brothels of Newport.
- The regicide John Lisle, Alice’s husband, fled to Switzerland where he was assassinated in Aug 1664.
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From the book “Families Directly Descended from All the Royal Families in Europe (495 to 1932) & Mayflower Descendants. Bound with Supplement” on ancestry, page 101:
- “John Lisle, of Moyles Court, County Southampton; he wa one of the judges who condemned King Charles the First, for which he was obliged to fly the kingdom, and ob. abroad. Second son [of Sir William Lisle and Bridget, dau. of Sir John Hungerford, of Down Ampney, in County Gloucester, Knt.]”
- John Lisle married “Alice, dau. and co-heir of Sir White Beconsawe, Knt., beheaded at Winchester, 1685, by the order of George Jeffries.”
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From http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op...=aet-t&id=I55341
ID: I55341
Name: John Lisle
Surname: Lisle
Given Name: John
Sex: M
Birth: 1610 in Wooton, Isle Wight, England
Death: 11 Aug 1664 in Lausanne, Virginiaud, Switzerland
Burial: Lausanne Church, Virginiaud, Switzerland
_UID: A747DFD440F6E14B9B7FCE07D09E4844ECC4
Note:
Lisle, John, regicide, born about 1610, was second son of Sir William Lisle of Wootton, Isle of Wight, by Bridget, daughter of Sir John Hungerford of Down Ampney, Gloucestershire (BERRY, County Genealogies,'Hampshire,' p. 174). On 25 Jan. 1625-6 he matriculated as a member of Magdalen Hall, Oxford, and gradmacted B.A. in February 1625-6. He was called to the bar from the Middle Temple in 1633 and became a bencher of his inn in 1649 (FOSTER, Alumni Oxon. 1500-1714, p. 917). He was chosen M.P. for Winchester in March 1639-40, and again in October1640. He advocated violent measures on the king's removal to the north, and obtained some of the plunder arising from the sale of the crown property. To the fund opened on 9 April 1642 for the 'speedy reducing of the rebels' in Ireland, Lisle contributed 600l.(RUSHWORTH, Hist. Coll. pt. iii. vol. i. p. 565). On the eviction of Dr. William Lewis (1592-1667) [q.v.] in November 1644 he was made master of St. Cross Hospital, near Winchester, and retained the office until June 1649. In 1644-5 he sat on the committee to investigate the charges preferred by Cromwell against the Earl of Manchester (Commons'Journals, iv. 25). He displayed his inveterate hostility to Charles in a speech delivered on 3 July 1645, before the lord mayor and citizens of London, with reference to the discovery of the king's letters at Naseby. It was printed. In December 1647, when the king was confined in the Isle of Wight, Lisle was selected as one of the commissioners to carry to him the four bills which were to divest him of all sovereignty. He spoke in the House of Commons on 28 Sept. 1648 in favour of rescinding the recent vote, that no one proposition in regard to the personal treaty with the king should be binding if the treaty broke off upon another; and again, some days later, urged a discontinmacnce of the negotiation with Charles. He took a prominent part in the king's trial. He was one of the managers, was present every day, and drew up the form of the sentence. He was appointed on 8 Feb. 1648-9 one of the commissioners of the great seal, and was placed on the council of state.

Lisle became one of Cromwell's creatures. He not only concurred in December 1653 in nominating Cromwell protector, but administered the oath to him; and having been reappointed lord commissioner, was elected member in the new parliament, on 12 July 1654, both for Southampton, of which town he was recorder, and for the Isle of Wight .He selected to sit for Southampton. In June previously he had been constituted president of the high court of justice, and in August he was appointed one of the commissioners of the exchequer. Lisle alone of his colleagues proposed to execute the ordinance for the better regulation of the court of chancery, which was submitted to the keepers of the seal, and owing to his subserviency to Cromwell was continued in his office on the removal of his colleagues in June 1655. He was again confirmed in it in October 1656 by Cromwell's third parliament, to which he was re-elected by Southampton. In December1657 Cromwell summoned Lisle to his newly established house of peers. Richard Cromwell preserved him in his place; but when the Long parliament met again in May 1659, he was compelled to retire. The house, however, named him on 28 Jan. 1660 a commissioner of the admiralty and navy (ib. vii. 825).

When the Restoration was inevitable Lisle escaped to Switzerland establishing himself first at Vevay and afterwards at Lausanne, where he is said to have 'charmed the Swiss by his devotion' (Cal. StatePapers, Dom. 1663-4), and was treated with much respect and ceremony. There he was shot dead on 11 Aug. 1664, on his way to church, by an Irishman known as Thomas Macdonnell [see art. Maccartain, William] .Macdonnell escaped, and Lisle was buried in the church of the city .His first wife was a daughter of Sir Henry Hobart, chief justice ofthe common pleas. His second wife Alice [q.v.] is noticed separately. With other issue he had two sons, John (d. 1709), of Dibden, Hampshire, and William, who adhered to the king and married the daughter of Lady Katherine Hyde (ib. 1660-1, p. 341).
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from a tree on ancestry.com by marygriggs_1
- John Lisle, Regicide
The eldest surviving son of Sir William Lisle of Wootton on the Isle of Wight, John Lisle was educated at Oxford and the Middle Temple and was called to the bar in 1633. He married Elizabeth, the daughter of Lord Chief Justice Hobart, then after her death in 1636 he married another rich heiress, Alice Beconshaw (who as Alice Lisle became a famous martyr for aiding the rebels of Monmouth's Rebellion in 1683).

Lisle was elected MP for Winchester during the Short and Long Parliaments and was active on the Hampshire county committee during the First Civil War. In Parliament, he was chairman of the committee that investigated Cromwell's allegations against the Earl ofManchester in December 1644. He also chaired the committee that framed the ordinance to create the New Model Army early in 1645. Lisle voted against continuing negotiations with the King after the Second Civil War (1648) and was appointed a commissioner of theHigh Court of Justice for the trial of the King in January 1649. He sat beside Lord-PresidentBradshaw during the trial to advise him on points of law. He also helped to draw up the sentence, but he was not a signatory of the King's death warrant.

With the establishment of the Commonwealth, Lisle was one of the commissioners who framed the new republican constitution. He sat on the five-man committee appointed to select members of the Council of State, and in February 1649 he was made a commissioner of the Great Seal. Lisle was active as a law reformer, but he also gained a reputation for acquisitiveness and sharp practice.

Lisle continued to hold high office after Cromwell's dissolution of the Rump Parliament in April 1653, and administered the oath of office when Cromwell became Lord Protector. He supported the offer of the Crown to Cromwell and was appointed to the controversial Upper House in December 1657. Lisle acted as President of the High Court of Justice when it was reconvened in May 1658 for the trial of ringleaders of a Royalist conspiracy against the Protectorate, of whom several were executed. When the Rump Parliament was restored in May 1659, he was dismissed from most of his lucrative offices. He escaped abroad at the Restoration and settled at Lausanne in Switzerland with other exiled republicans.

In August 1664, as he was leaving a church service at Lausanne, Lisle was shot dead by an Irish Royalist known as Thomas MacDonnel.

Sources:
Timothy Venning, John Lisle, Oxford DNB, 2004
http://www.british-civil-wars.co.uk/biog/lisle-john.htm
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From Complete Peerage, IV:Appendex G - p 622
- "JOHN LISLE, Regicide, of Moyles Court. Ellingham, Southants, s. and h. of Sir William L., of Wooton, Isle of Wight, by Bridget, da. of Sir John Hungerford, of Down Ampney, co Gloucester; b.1609; matric at Oxford (Magd Hall) 25 Jan 1625/6; admitted Middle Temple 11 May 1626; called to the Bar 1633; Bencher 9 Feb 1648/9; Gov of Westminster School 26 Sep 1649. MP for Winchester 10 Mar 1639/40; again, in the Long Parl., 27 Oct 1640, and for Southampton 12 July 1654. He was aviolent anti-royalist, and active promoter of the King's trial, and drafted the sentence. He was present in Westminster Hall, 27 Jan1648/9, when the sentence was pronounced, though he did not sign the death-warrant. Councillor of State 14 Feb 1648/9, 13 Feb 1649/50, 13Feb 1650/1, and 24 Nov 1652; member of the LORD PROTECTOR's Council,with a salary of £1,000 per ann., 16 Dec 1653; Lord Commissioner ofthe Great Seal with a further £1,000 per ann., 8 Feb 1648/9, 15 June1655 and 22 Jan 1658/9; and a member of the High Court of Justice, in which Sir Henry Slingsby and other royalists were condemned, 21 Nov1653; President thereof 1654. He was sum. to the OTHER HOUSE, 10 Dec1657, and took his seat, as "JOHN LORD LISLE," 20 Jan 1657/8. He wasapp. Commissioner of the Navy 28 Jan 1659/60. At the Restoration hewas absolutely excepted from the Act of Indemnity, 29 Aug 1660, and attainted, but fled to Switzerland, where he was assassinated by Thomas MacDowell, 11 Aug 1664. He m., 27 Oct 1636, at Ellingham afsd., Alice, 1st da. and coh. of Sir White BECKONSHAW, of Moyles Courtafsd., by Edith 1st da. and coh. of William BOND, of Blackmanston, Dorset. His widow was tried on a charge of High Treason, sentenced to death by Judge Jeffreys, 28 Aug and beheaded 2 Sep 1685, in the market-place at Winchester aged 70."

# Change Date: 10 May 2009 at 01:00:00

Father: William Lisle b: 1569 in Wooton, Isle Wight, England
Mother: Bridget Hungerford b: 1565 in Down Ampeny, Gloucestershire, England
Marriage 1 Alicia Alice Beaconshaw b: 11 Sep 1617 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
* Married: 23 Oct 1636 in Ellingham, Isle Wight, England

Children
1. Has Children Margaret Lisle b: 1652 in Grindleton, Yorkshire, England
2. Has No Children John Lisle b: 1637 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
3. Has No Children Bridget Lisle b: ABT 1632 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
4. Has No Children Tryphena Lisle b: ABT 1634 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
5. Has No Children Alice Lisle b: 1634 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
6. Has No Children Mabella Lisle b: ABT 1636 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
7. Has No Children Anne Lisle b: ABT 1640 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
8. Has No Children Elizabeth Lisle b: 1 May 1640 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
9. Has No Children William Lisle b: ABT 1642 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
10. Has No Children Beaconshaw Lisle b: 1645 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
11. Has No Children Mary Lisle b: ABT 1646 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England
12. Has No Children Anna Lisle b: ABT 1648 in Moyles Court, Hampshire, England

John first married Elizabeth HOBART. Elizabeth died in 1636.

On 23 Oct 1636 when John was 27, he second married Lady Alice BECONSHAWE, daughter of Sir White BECONSHAWE (1590-1638) & Edith BOND (ca1590-1623), in Ellingham, Ringwood, Hampshire, England. Born in 1617 in Ellingham, Ringwood, Hampshire, England. Christened on 24 Sep 1617 in Ellingham, Ringwood, Hampshire, England. Alice died in The Square, Winchester, Hampshire, England, on 2 Sep 1685; she was 68. Buried in 1685 in Ellingham Church Cemetery, Hampshire, England.

From the book ...by Anthony Whitaker, 2006
- Alice “was born in the New Forest village of Ellingham around the end of the third week of September 1617. Although the entry is faint, the parish register records her baptism on Sunday, 24 September, so it is reasonable to assume she was born a day or two before that. The elder daughter of Sir White and Lady Edith Beconsaw, she grew up at Moyles Court, the house 3 miles north of Ringwood that she inherited jointly with her sister Elizabeth, and that would remain her home for most of her life.”

- On 23 October 1636, a month after her nineteenth birthday, she was married in Ellingham parish church to John Lisle, a widower aged 27 from the Isle of Wight. [Note that the dates given in the Dictionary of National Bioigraphy (repr. Oxford, Oxford University Press, 1998) for Alice Lisle’s birth and marriage (1614 and 1630 respectively) are wrong.]
- 1638 - her father White Beconsaw died and, by arrangement with her sister, Alice alone inherited Moyles Court, where she became mother to 11 children.
- “For the first forty years of her life, fortune smiled on Alice Lisle. She was herself an heiress, and in 1636 she married John Lisle, a wealthy and well-born widower and a rising man. Rise indeed he did, becoming a staunch Parliament supporter, a party to the trial and execution of King Charles I and an apparatchik of the Cromwellian regime that followed. During these years John enjoyed, and Alice no doubt shared, the rewards and celebrity that rub off on those close to the seat of power. But with the Restoration in 1660 all changed. John, as a regicide, was an obvious target for royalist vengeance. [Alice Lisle was a political pariah from the moment of Charles II’s Restoration 1660, and was constently describes as “the Regicide’s wife.] He escaped to the Continent just in time to avoid seizure here [England] [leaving Alice pregnant with their youngest child Anne, who never saw her father]. But he was hunted down by royalist assassins and murdered in Lausanne in 1645. Alice, for her part, lived a retired life at Moyles Court, a house near Ringwood in Hampshire that she had inherited from her father. Until 1685. In that year, elderly, infirm and nearly deaf, she was charged with treason, tried before the Lord Chief Justice and a jury, convicted, and beheaded [on 2 Sept 1685] in what is now The Square in Winchester. Her crime? Harbouring a Presbyterian minister who had, to her knowledge it was said, supported the rebellion led by the hapless Duke of Monmouth ... For many years she was believed to have been an innocent victim, and her daughters procured the reversal of her conviction by Act of Parliament [4 years later], very promptly after the Glorious Revolution, in 1689. But Antony Whitaker [author] persuasively argues in [his] carefully researched book, that she is unlikely to have been innocent. A modern juury would be sceptical thsat she know quite as little as she claimed about a man hidden in her house ... Alice Lisle’s trial was the prelude to what became known as the “Bloody Assize”, and Lord Jeffreys, the Lord Chief Justice, still only 40 and still aiming higher, was determined to strike terror into the hearts of those awaiting trial for their part in the rebellion, throughout the West Country. He saw himself as the agent of royal retribution. ... as a criminal judge, --- his reputation ... is of a cruel and ruthless bully, using his undoubtedly brillian talents as an advocate to insult, humiliate, intimidate and entrap. That he chose to overlay his invective with an unconvincing veneer of religiosity does nothing to commend it...”

- John and Alice turned to Puritanism - not clear when. - those with political ambtion during the Commonwealth had to adopt / adapt to that faith. John and Alice joined the Dissenting congregation in Westminster Abbey, led by the Cromwell family, and the chapel at Moyles Court no doubt housed similar gatherings. But at the Restoration, Nonconformists became the largest religious minority - 4% based on the 1676 Province of Canterbury return

- after John fled for his life [to Europe], his attainder and the forfeiture of his estates ... Alice found herself with little besides her own inheritance of Moyles Court (as this was her ‘jointure’, settled on her by her parents before her marriage, John had only a life tenancy of the property) ... this was all she had to support and educate her 7 unmarried children: John, Bridget, Tryphena, Margaret, Mary, Mabella, and Anne Alice is later able to buy back some of her murdered husband’s confiscated land at Ellingham [Ringwood, Hampshire, England] from the Duke of York in 1674 and in Feb 1679 included Moyles Court in the marriage settlement set up in anticipation of her son John’s wedding on 20 May that year.

- In the codicil to her will of 9 June 1682, Alice Lisle gave [her daughter] Margaret a legacy of 70 pounds, likely trying to relieve their poverty. Margaret never received this money, though her family may have done so later, as Margaret died in 1686 following childbirth. Margaret was the only married daughter to be thus favoured, since the main provisions of the will provided for her spinster sisters, Mary, Mabella and Anne, against the day of their marriage.

- Alice Lisle’s trial for treason took place “in the candlelit hall of Winchester Castle” on Thursday, 27 August 1685, and lasted barely 6 hours. The jury deliberated only 15 minutes, around 11pm.

- A stone plaque in the wall of Winchester city museum indicates the site of Alice Lisle’s execution, in the roadway of what was then the marketplace and is now The Square. She went to the scaffold three weeks before her sixty-eighth birthday, wearing the obligatory ‘red-quilted petticoat’. The only surviving contemporary account of the event is that which reached Londona day or two later, as minuted by Muddiman: “On the 2nd .. about 4 in the afternoon Mrs Lisle was beheaded at Winchester. They give not anything of her remarks on the scaffold but that she was old and dozy and died withouit much concern.” ... The official announcement appeared in the London Gazette of 7 September:
“Winchester, September 3. Alicia Lisle being convicted of High Treason at the Sessions of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery held here for harbouring John Hicks, a Rebell, received sentence of Deagth accourdingly: and yesterday she was executed.”

- “Dame Alice lies buried at Ellingham along with her daughter Ann Harfell about whom we do not yet know very much. The rather gloomy table tomb is just outside the door of the church, one cannot miss it. ‘Here lies Dame Alicia Lisle who died the 2nd of September 1685 and her daughter Ann Harfell who died the 17th of February 1709.’”

- “The Act of Parliament of May 1689 reversed Alice Lisle’s conviction and attainder. This Act cited the Crown’s failure to obtain a prior conviction against Hicks, and Jeffrey’s coercion of the jury, as justifying her rehabilitation. By then, the political climate had completely changed: James II had fled, William III was on the throne, and Jeffreys had died in the Tower a month earlier. The Act became law on 24 May and was a direct response to a petition by two of Alice Lisle’s daughters, Tryphena Lloyd and Bridget Usher. As a piece of Political window-dressing, the propagandist’s hand is clearly evident: the Act was as concerned to condemn the legal excesses of the ‘bad old days’ - underpinning the Glorious Revolution that had substituted the House of Orange for the House of Stuart - as to correct an apparent injustice.”

- Moyles Court, Alice Lisle’s home for most of her life, ... survived against the odds. Rebuilt probably around the middle of the seventeenth century as a comfortable country home, it was looked after by the Lisle family for most of the next two centures. It was then bought by a 19th cenury playboy banker for whom its charm all too swiftly evaporated - he got rid of it in 1829. By the 1860s it was in ruins; but a Victorian squire took it on, and, despite strong advice that demolition was the only answer, he had the determination, and the means, to carry out a sensitive resotration. It twice fell into serioius disrepair during the 20th century, but sympathetic hands again came to the rescue, and it now [2006] remains one of the more attractive country houses of souther England.”
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- 1682 will
“Alicia Lisle, of Moyles Court in the County of Southampton, widow, 9 Jun 1682, with codicil of same date, proved 11 November 1689. To the poor of the parish of Ellingham two pounds within one year after my decease. The overplus (after payments of such debts) to my worthy friends, the said William Tipping and Mrs. Frances Tipping his sister, Richard Lloyd, citizen and linen-draper of London, and Triphena his wife, to hold forever upon this especial trust, etc., to discharge my funeral expenses and pay debts, etc., and to pay unto my daughter Anne twelve hundred pounds at the age of one and twenty years or day of marriage, to pay unto my granddaughter _____ Hore, daughter of my daughter Bridgett, now in New England, the sum of one hundred pounds at age of one and twenty or day of marriage, to pay unto my daughter Mary one annuity or yearly rent of six pounds during her natural life, but if said daughter Mary marry against their consent said annuity shall cease, to pay to daughter Mabella Lisle an annuity of forty pounds (under same conditions). The residue to be distributed among daughters or daughters’ children as they (the trustees shall think fit.
Witnesses: Anne Tipping, William Withrington, John Swan and Abiah Browne. Ent. 159.
Reference: “New England Historical and Genealogical Register,” Vol. 39 (1885), page 62.”

RESEARCH NOTES:
- Name previously entered as Alicia Beconsawe, died 1685 (source unknown). Last name may be spelled without the final ‘e’, with or without an “h” [Beconshaw]
- Had other siblings.
- A book “The Regicides Widow” by Antony Whitaker (242 pages) is about “Lady Alice Lisle and The Bloody Assize”
Product Description (as per Amazon):
Rebellion, persecution and injustice in Restoration England are the themes of this colourful and passionate book about the last woman to be beheaded in England. Lady Alice Lisle was the last remaining link with the hated regicides, the men who signed Charles I's death warrant, and when she gave shelter to a clergyman who had been involved in the popular uprising known as Monmouth's Rebellion, Judge Jeffreys, the 'Hanging Judge', showed no mercy. "The Regicide's Widow" recreates a disturbing period of British history through the characters of Lady Alice Lisle and Judge Jeffreys, a period when fairness, justice and truth were cast aside in the interests of political power and conformity. It is a truly Machiavellian story of statecraft, with government and judiciary involved in a ruthless display of might. In the end this display worked against them, for while it did not lead to direct revolt, the effects were so harsh and memories so vivid that the people of the West were among the most energetic supporters of the Glorious Revolution which three years after the Bloody Assize brought James' rule to an end.
About the Author
Antony Whitaker OBE is a barrister and was for many years legal manager of Times Newspapers Ltd. He has written extensively for The Times and the Sunday Times and lives in East Sussex.

They had the following children:

5i.

Alice LISLE (~1640-)

6ii.

John LISLE

7iii.

Bridget LISLE (>1640-1723)

8iv.

Elizabeth LISLE (~1641-)

9v.

Margaret LISLE (1643-1686)

10vi.