Eighth Generation (Continued)
Family of Joanna WHITAKER (44) & Arthur NEWMAN
64. John NEWMAN (Joanna WHITAKER7, Jeremiah6, Jeremiah5, Margaret LISLE4, John3, William2, Anthony1). Born on 24 Nov 1757 in Hampshire, England. Christened on 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood, Hampshire, England. John died in Farley, Hampshire, England, in 1790; he was 32. Occupation: Clergyman, Fawley, New Coll.Oxford.
- 1760 CHRISTENING: Parish records (IGI batch C150561) list John Newman, parents Arthur Newman and Joanna, baptised 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood Hampshire, the same date as siblings Jeremiah Whitaker Newman and Charlotte Newman
1760 England Births and Christenings
Name: John Newman
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Aug 1760
Christening Place: RINGWOOD,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 24 Nov 1757
Father's Name: Arthur Newman
Mother's Name: Joanna
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15056-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0994051 IT 3-5
- John was a Fellow of New College, Oxford, and the Vicar of Farley in Hampshire at the time of his death.
- 1760 CHRISTENING: Parish records (IGI batch C150561) list John Newman, parents Arthur Newman and Joanna, baptised 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood Hampshire, the same date as siblings Jeremiah Whitaker Newman and Charlotte Newman
1760 England Births and Christenings
Name: John Newman
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Aug 1760
Christening Place: RINGWOOD,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 24 Nov 1757
Father's Name: Arthur Newman
Mother's Name: Joanna
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15056-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0994051 IT 3-5
- John was a Fellow of New College, Oxford, and the Vicar of Farley in Hampshire at the time of his death.
65. Jeremiah Whitaker NEWMAN (Joanna WHITAKER7, Jeremiah6, Jeremiah5, Margaret LISLE4, John3, William2, Anthony1). Born on 7 Apr 1759 in Hampshire, England. Christened on 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood, Hampshire, England. Jeremiah Whitaker died in England on 27 Jul 1839; he was 80. Occupation: Physician, Writer.DNB.
- 1760 CHRISTENING: Parish records (IGI batch C150561) list Jeremiah Whitaker Newman, parents Arthur Newman and Joanna, baptised 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood Hampshire, the same date as siblings Charlotte Newman and John Newman
1760 England Births and Christenings
Name: Jeremiah Whitaker Newman
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Aug 1760
Christening Place: RINGWOOD,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 07 Apr 1759
Father's Name: Arthur Newman
Mother's Name: Joanna
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15056-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0994051 IT 3-5
- Known as Jere (from his father’s will of 1785)
- Jeremiah was of the College of Physicians, London
- Jeremiah actually has a piece on him in the Dictionary of National Biography. He practiced in London, becoming a member of the Corportion of Surgeons. He went back to Ringwood and was working there in 1783. Ill health forced him to Dover where he recuperated, and met Sir Thomas Mantell who invited him to live in his household. “He was a delightful companioin at all times, full of anecdote and energy, intelligence and originality”. On 9 Dec he was admitted as an Extra-Licentiate of the College of Physicians of London. He was a favourite of Mesenger Monsey, the resident physician of Chelsea Hospital of whom he wrote an amusing memoir, but did not publish it. His works:
* Alphaetical anecdotes (short biographies of people who led striking or odd lives)
* A short Inquiry into the Merits of Solvents, so far as it may be necessary to compare them with the operation of Lithotomy. London 1781
* An Essay on the Principles and Manners of the Medical Profession: with some occasional Remarks on the Use and Abuse of Medicines. 1789
* The Lounger’s Commonplace Book or Miscellaneous Collections in History, Criticism, Biography, Poetry and Romance. 3rd edition 4 vols 1805-8. This he published anonymously.
- 1839 Jeremiah died the 27th of July, 1839 in the 81st year of age, and Mary his wife who died the 10th of October 1860 aged 90.
- 1760 CHRISTENING: Parish records (IGI batch C150561) list Jeremiah Whitaker Newman, parents Arthur Newman and Joanna, baptised 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood Hampshire, the same date as siblings Charlotte Newman and John Newman
1760 England Births and Christenings
Name: Jeremiah Whitaker Newman
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 30 Aug 1760
Christening Place: RINGWOOD,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 07 Apr 1759
Father's Name: Arthur Newman
Mother's Name: Joanna
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15056-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0994051 IT 3-5
- Known as Jere (from his father’s will of 1785)
- Jeremiah was of the College of Physicians, London
- Jeremiah actually has a piece on him in the Dictionary of National Biography. He practiced in London, becoming a member of the Corportion of Surgeons. He went back to Ringwood and was working there in 1783. Ill health forced him to Dover where he recuperated, and met Sir Thomas Mantell who invited him to live in his household. “He was a delightful companioin at all times, full of anecdote and energy, intelligence and originality”. On 9 Dec he was admitted as an Extra-Licentiate of the College of Physicians of London. He was a favourite of Mesenger Monsey, the resident physician of Chelsea Hospital of whom he wrote an amusing memoir, but did not publish it. His works:
* Alphaetical anecdotes (short biographies of people who led striking or odd lives)
* A short Inquiry into the Merits of Solvents, so far as it may be necessary to compare them with the operation of Lithotomy. London 1781
* An Essay on the Principles and Manners of the Medical Profession: with some occasional Remarks on the Use and Abuse of Medicines. 1789
* The Lounger’s Commonplace Book or Miscellaneous Collections in History, Criticism, Biography, Poetry and Romance. 3rd edition 4 vols 1805-8. This he published anonymously.
- 1839 Jeremiah died the 27th of July, 1839 in the 81st year of age, and Mary his wife who died the 10th of October 1860 aged 90.
In 1790 when Jeremiah Whitaker was 30, he married Mary SHOULDER in Dover, England. Born abt 1770. Mary died in England on 10 Oct 1860; she was 90.
66. Charlotte Lisle NEWMAN (Joanna WHITAKER7, Jeremiah6, Jeremiah5, Margaret LISLE4, John3, William2, Anthony1) 
. Born on 16 Aug 1760 in Hampshire, England. Christened on 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood, Hampshire, England. Charlotte Lisle died in England in 1789; she was 28. Occupation: Housewife.
- ANCESTORS: Charlotte was a descendant of Alice Lisle, beheaded in 1685.
- 1760 CHRISTENING: Parish records (IGI batch C150561) list Charlotte Newman, parents Arthur Newman and Joanna, baptised 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood Hampshire, the same date as brothers Jeremiah Whitaker Newman and John Newman - note that middle name Lisle not listed
1760 England Births and Christenings
Name: Charlotte Newman
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 30 Aug 1760
Christening Place: RINGWOOD,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1760
Father's Name: Arthur Newman
Mother's Name: Joanna
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15056-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0994051 IT 3-5
- DEATH: at age 27 or 28, after having 3 children.
RESEARCH NOTES:
- She was NOT an aunt of well-known Cardinal John Henry Newman, as previously thought. Cardinal Newman came from a different part of the country and his family is documented (doesn’t include Charlotte).
- sources vary on year of birth/baptism. Could be 1760 or 1762.
. Born on 16 Aug 1760 in Hampshire, England. Christened on 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood, Hampshire, England. Charlotte Lisle died in England in 1789; she was 28. Occupation: Housewife.- ANCESTORS: Charlotte was a descendant of Alice Lisle, beheaded in 1685.
- 1760 CHRISTENING: Parish records (IGI batch C150561) list Charlotte Newman, parents Arthur Newman and Joanna, baptised 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood Hampshire, the same date as brothers Jeremiah Whitaker Newman and John Newman - note that middle name Lisle not listed
1760 England Births and Christenings
Name: Charlotte Newman
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 30 Aug 1760
Christening Place: RINGWOOD,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1760
Father's Name: Arthur Newman
Mother's Name: Joanna
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15056-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0994051 IT 3-5
- DEATH: at age 27 or 28, after having 3 children.
RESEARCH NOTES:
- She was NOT an aunt of well-known Cardinal John Henry Newman, as previously thought. Cardinal Newman came from a different part of the country and his family is documented (doesn’t include Charlotte).
- sources vary on year of birth/baptism. Could be 1760 or 1762.
On 28 Nov 1779 when Charlotte Lisle was 19, she married Colonel Harry Childeroy COMPTON , son of Thomas COMPTON (1734-1795) & Frances Mount CHILDEROY (~1739-1829), in Amport, Hampshire, England. Born on 9 Jan 1759 in Amport, Hampshire, England. Christened in Jan 1759 in Amport Church, Hampshire, England. Harry Childeroy died in Chateau De La Bruyere, St. Launeuc, Brittany, France, in 1839; he was 79. Buried abt 1839 in St Launeuc, Brittan, France.
- 1759 birth of HARRY COMPTON - IGI entry:
Birth: 09 JAN 1759 Amport, Hampshire, England
Father: THOMAS COMPTON Family
Mother: FRANCES
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
J136521 1665 - 1875 1041196 Film NONE Sheet: 00
[Other sources list Dec 1758 OR other dates in Jan 1759].
- Harry was NOT born in London [previously entered as Marylebone, Middlesex, England]; born in Amport Hampshire England. Cholderton is almost in Wilshire (there is a knowl of trees on Cholderton Hill which were planted by the Comptons who owned abut 1000 acres around there at the end of the 18th centruy.)
MARRIAGES:
- #1, 1779: COMPTON Harry Childeroy and NEWMAN Charlotte, 28 Nov1779, AMPORT [Hampshire, England] [from Phillimore’s Marriage Index]. First wife Charlotte [Newman] died at age 28 in England.
HARRY CHILDEROY COMPTON IGI entry:
Spouse: CHARLOTTE NEWMAN Family
Marriage: 28 NOV 1779 Amport, Hampshire, England
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M136521 1695 - 1876 1041196 Film NONE Sheet: 00
Also found on findmypast: Parish Records Collection marriage
- #2: to Mary Anne* Lyne of Ringwood, Hampshire. Mary Anne Lyne [or Line] of Ringwood, stayed behind in England when Harry moved to Canada. Mary Anne Anne Lyne Compton predecease Harry, being buried in Fordingbridge churyard on Nov 3, 1831. Harry was 73.
- #3: Legend tells that he married once again to a Miss Wells, and that she and their lawyer poisoned him... It sounds unlikely. … Harry’s third wife was Anna Maria Wells, daughter of Commander Thomas Wells RN. She was given the chateau [in Normandy France, by Harry] as a wedding gift. The current owner of the chateau is a descendant of Anna and her second husband, Mr. Lemercier. … Later married ? Wells and had another daughter. ...
Harry`s third wife, Annemary Wells, d of Admirall Wells, was given Chateau de la Bruyere on her wedding day. It is a lovely house belonging to a descendant of her second marriage to M. Lemercier.
- Housekeeper Eleanor Sangster [?] who raised the family and for whom the Village of St. Eleanor’s was named - speculation only that they married [I strongly doubt it]
MILITARY [see further details below]:
- in 1794 was appointed Captain of a company in the Perth Highland Regiment of Fencibles in British Army.
- Harry served as a Major in the Perthshire Fencible regiment between 1794-1799 in Ireland.
- Was granted 20,000 acres, Lot 17, in PEI, in1804 [1803?] for services rendered during Irish Rebellion in 1798.
- Officer in the PEI Militia from 1804-1818. Promoted to Colonel in 1806.
RESIDENCES and LAND:
- From Amport, Hampshire, England. May have lived in Thruxton [England].
- Came to Canada from England in 1804 [1803?] with 1 son and 1 daughter, wife already dead. Located on Lot 17, St. Eleanor's district, Richmond Bay, built residence "Pavillion" finished in 1806, demolished by fire 1844.
- 1813, from http://www.gov.pe.ca/archives/petitions/detail.php?id=440 [2 page document and cover - see 3 images]
Hon. H. Compton, petitioned regarding Bridges and Roads [26 Jul 1813, petition no. 440, RG5, Series4, file 25(2)]
petition notes: “Letter written by the Hon. H. Compton at the Pavillon, dated 26 July 1813, in which he mentions Statue Labour done on the roads’ Also mentions Col. Gray.
- 1815, from http://www.gov.pe.ca/archives/petitions/detail.php?id=469 [2 page document and cover - see 3 images]
Harry Compton, Member of Council, petitioned Governor Charles Douglas Smith of PEI [7 Nov 1815, petition 469, RG5, Series 4, file 27, petition summary: ‘Has served as a member of His Majesty's Council for this Government upwards of Ten Years, "often to the teriment of his private affairs as well as great personal incovenience to himself" due to the great distance of his residence. Requests Pasture Lot No. 17 in Charlotte Town Royalty and an unidentified Town Lot in Charlotte Town. Notes the Pasture Lot No. 17 was located by the late Governor Patterson to John Patterson more than forthy years ago, but it does not appear that "any Grant pass'd the Seals for the same. . . ." ‘ Decision: Referred.
- 1816, from http://www.gov.pe.ca/archives/petitions/detail.php?id=478 [2 page document and cover - see 3 images]
Harry [Henry] Compton, petitions Gov. Charles Douglas Smith [1 Aug 1816, petition no. 478, RG5, Series4, file 28], other petitioners: Mr. Wm Nelis, also mentioned: Col Grey, Col Desbrisay.
Summary: “Petitioner cannot come to town to attend Council due to his recent poor health, but would like to request a Town Lot and two Pasture Lots in Prince Town Royalty. He mentions that he is leaving the Island for a time but will return. Would also like to petition for the money owed to Mr. Wm. Nelis for his time as Clerk of the two Battallions of the Prince County Regiment from March 1805 to December 1815. Petition also provides detail concerning his poor health and desperate financial situation.”
Notes: Letter includes a note dated 2 August 1816 certifying Mr. Wn. Nelis' appointment and services as Clerk to the two Battalions of the Prince County Regiment”
- Moved to Brittany, France - dates vary: 1818? (or about 1826?). [see more on land and travel issues below]
WORK: Landlord. Served as a member of the local assembly for a number of years [PEI].
DEATH: in Brittany, France. 1839, aged 80, on his estate. In France Harry lived at Chateau de la Bruyere [incorrect?] near St. Launeuc, Brittany.
- We think Chateau La Bruyere was an estate of his mother’s family. [now proved incorrect]
- Efforts to find his grave are being made.... [grave not found]
- Harry’s grave disappeared when the graveyard was rearranged for more dead. This is quite common in Brittany as it is stony (they do the same in Greece).
- Prince Edward Island Death Card Index, 1721-1905
Compton, Hon. Henry
age 80. in France, lived for a time on PEI, died 1840
Record from Archives, newspapers.
- Harry was buried in his local churchyard [Brittany, France] but, because Brittany is so stony, the skeletons were dug up and put in the village ossuary, the skul on a shelf with its name and dates. [The village] is St Launeac. Mr Desmier, who owns the chateau, told us. The chapel they worshipped in is still there!
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[See also information under Hubert G. Compton, author of this biography].
Published in the black-covered book “Past and Present of PEI”, page 85:
“About 1800 Colonel Compton came out. He or his connections had purchased the northern part of township 17 from the original grantee. This army officer before leaving England prepared and brought with him all the fittings for a comfortable house, and this he erected on the shore of Richmond Bay, on the west side of the entrance to River Platte. In a lease granted by Mr. Compton to 23 French families, the following stipulations were inserted as the rents to be paid: ‘[most details omitted here]...The said Harry Compton reserves to himself the right of chase on and over the said farms at pleasure.’
No doubt the influence of such a man as Colonel Compton told in determining that St. Eleanor’s, and not Princetown, should have the country court house built within its confines. Some years after he became a resident, the “Old Town Road” was made as far as St. Eleanor’s, then the Anglican church was built on the same site as the present one - the first having been burnt down in about 1844 - and about 1833 the St. Eleanor’s court house and jail was erected by the Government. Here for the next 40 years justice was dispensed for the county by the Supreme Court. Although it never grew to more than a village, yet it was a place of considerable importance, there being stores and tradesmen’s shops clustered in the place.”
From page 86-87: In 1838 or thereabouts, the first part of Queen’s wharf at Summerside was constructed. The land where the town is built belonged to Daniel Green, a Loyalist, who got the grant of the land from Governor Fanning in 1795. After the wharf was begun the road from St. Eleanor’s was connected therewith, but for a number of years afterward those coming from the eastern side, had to reach the wharf by coming along the shore. At first the place as known as “Green’s Shore,” , the “green’s Wharf” then simply “The Wharf” and since that time as Summerside. The story told as to how the latter name was associated with the town is, that one year when spring was near, but yet the cold northerly winds were blowing, a resident from the north slope of Richmond Bay, where the icy blast was still keenly felt, came over to the south side and finding the temperature more mild owing to the heat of the sun, which was now climbing well north, he exclaimed to the first person he met at the wharf, “Why, you have the summer side here.” It is affirmed that is was Colonel Compton who made this remark to old Joseph Green, and that the latter was so taken with it that he had the name placed over the door of his house.”.....St Eleanor’s “went backward” due to the growth of Summerside and to being bypassed by the railroad.
From page 262 regarding the first St. John’s Church; Rev. L. C. Jenkins was sent to St. Eleanor’s as its first rector in the spring of 1824. “There being no church building or parsonage, divine service was held at the “Pavillion”, the residence of Colonel Compton, the proprietor of Lot 17, while the rector found temporary quarters at Mr. George Tanton’s. The parishioners at once set to work to build a parsonage....As soon as the parsonage was completed work was commenced on the church which, though it was not finished until 1831, was then the first belonging exlusively to the Chrch of Encland in PEI. It as later consecrated under the name of “St. John’s Church.”
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Exerpts from A Short History of the Comptons of Chitterne (pgs 58-62) by a Compton researcher in England:
Harry was a Captain in the Perthshire Regiment of Fencible Infantry (PRFI), Napoleonic War... This regiment was founded to perform something like miliary police duties in Ireland, and to fight off the French who arrived in Bantry Bay in Dec 1796. The Perthshires were formed in 1794 under James Robertson and disbanded in 1799.
- Compton, Harry Capt. joined 30 October 1794
- Compton, George Lieut. joined 30 October 1794
- Compton, Edmund Lieut .joined 30 October 1794
- Compton, Arthur Ensign. joined 30 October 1794... Arthur was too young and was sent home...
Harry was under arrest between 18 May and 30 Sept 1795 in the charge of Lt. Col. Richardson and Lt. George Duncan. The reason is not given. [Brother] Edmund had a command during 1795. At some point he went home and died, possibly from a wound, but he did not die in Ireland (Notes from M.D. Warrn).
On Nov 28 1779 Harry married Charlotte Newman, a daughter of Arthur and Joanna Newman of Ringwood. The witnesses were Harry’s uncle George Jennings and his sister-in-law Elizabeth Compton nee Batt. The ceremony took place in Amport Church... It appears that a second Harry Compton married a Charlotte Newman at the church of St Marylebone in the presence of William Camcross and Susannah Rainey. The Charlotte we know was only 17, maybe parental disapproval sent them to marry first in London so it was a fait accompli. But surely one cannot marry in church twice?
Sometime before 1792 Harry remarried. His new wife was Mary Anne Lyne, daughter of Stephen Lyne of Ringwood. The Lynes were a very old Ringwood family, John Lyne founding the Free School there in 1586.... Harry seems to have been given 20,000 acres of perhaps not very wonderful land on PEI, some on Lot 17 and some on 20. He did a deal with one Townsend who also had his land thus, so that they each had a lot of their own... Mary Anne did not want to go to Canada, neither did she send her child with its father. Harry set off with his son Thomas and daughter Charlotte, a servant girl and housekeeper Mrs. Eleanor Sankey [Sangster?], from Portsmouth on the “Teresa”. They left on 23.8.1803 and arrived on 23.9.1803, a long journey by sailing ship through rough seas, icebergs and whales (sailing info from the LDS www.familysearch.org).
[In PEI], Harry was on H.M. Legislative Council and became a Colonel in the local militia. In 1811 he returned from either France or England, maybe this time he brought his daughter with him. Poor Lyne was to die a few years later. Harry left again on 1.8.1816 and must have stayed on a while with his brother George in Chilworth near Southampton as they, along with Thomas their brother, feature in an indenture (mentioned by K. Lane; not found by Catherine Koppana). He missed out on Lyne’s death [in PEI] which happened in September.
In 1824 Harry left for France and went to live at his Chateau de la Bruyere in Saint-Launeuc, Brittany, France [now in the Cotes du Nord province; Google Earth code = 22230]. Catherine located this chateau, I believe through land titles, and visited the location spring 2006 (although they were unable to get a tour of the inside). Catherine previously said that the chateau has been rebuilt since Harry lived there. However, the chateau is apparently the same building where Col. Harry Compton lived - it wasn't rebuilt. Quite a find. [see below for further information on identifying the correct Chateau].
Harry’s grandsons from PEI were sent over to be educated by him and certain deeds were executed by him in 1839 leaving land to each of his grandsons, Harry Alfred and John Newman Compton....
2009 update from author: In 1816 Harry went to England, I have copies of the official notes saying he had gone. While away his daugher Lyne, who lived with her half-brother, Thomas C. Compton, died. Harry returned [to PEI] and then moved to France where he bought the chateau in 1821. I have a copy of the conveyancing got when I visited it.... Harry [originally] left for Canada in 1803, his second wife took their child to church [in England] for presentation to the congregation (privately baptised) not long after this. Lyne Middleton Compton, this daughter, already managed to come to Canada, settle in with Thomas C.C. and die in 1815 [1816?]. I thought I sent you a copy of the family history, it should all be in there, though we know more about Mary Anne Lyne Comtpon now. Harry went back to England in 1816 but returned [to PEI]. He was gone and living in Paris in 1821 and did not return.
Regarding land conveyances and leases:
Regarding leasing land to the Acadians (from http://www.acadian-home.org/Georges-Arsenault-Entrepreneurs-PEI.html): “After [the Acadians’] return to the Island [PEI], following the 1758 Expulsion by the British, dispossessed Acadians spent many years trying to rebuild their communities. Among the factors which hindered them from becoming involved in the world of business was their land occupancy status. As tenants, many did not have the right to venture into commerce since some landlords kept that prerogative for themselves or their associates. That was the case in Lot 17 where, in 1807, 21 Acadian farmers signed leases with Colonel Harry Compton. Their leases, unequivocal in this matter, read: “And the said Tenants are hereby restrained from erecting or suffering to be erected any Corn or Grist Mill on any part of their farm or farms but shall cause their Grains at all times to be ground at the Mill of the Township and no other, neither shall they suffer to be kept any Shop, Store or Tavern on any parts of their respective farms....” “
Another researcher sent a news “Article Aug 1932 - St Eleanors, PEI”
“Old Deed Cited - It is interesting to note at this point, that an old deed, dated 1807 in which Colonel Compton leased lands to James and Charles Cresswell that he reserved to the French the right of egress and regress to their burial ground. An illustration showing the Church and its bounday is in the corner of the deed. This is in the possession of Mrs. Henry W. Compton a great grand-daughter of Colonel Compton. This was the Mission Church, which was afterward moved to Miscouche.”
A Land Conveyance document was drawn up 29 Sep 1814 but not registered until 20 Feb 1817 in PEI. Harry Compton of Saint Eleanors Let to James and Charles Craswell of Richmond Parish a parcel of land known by the name of Churchill, already occupied by James and Charles, described as "Seven Acres a little more or less of Arable dry meadow or clear Land Bounded on the West by Lakes the property of Captain Thomas Compton, on the North by the shore of Richmond Bay on the East by Lands now in the occupation of Mr Benj'n Crossman and on the South by Lands the Property of Mr Wm Craswell". [Note that the annexed plan in the margin was not included; also that William Craswell, father of James and Charles, had purchased 408 acres + 243 acres of land from Harry Compton in 1809.] The lease was for 99 years at the yearly rent of 30 shillings (Great Britain currency). Conditions included "reserving to the said Harry Compton his Heirs Executors and Administrators the width of six feet together with a Dyke round said Premises to the Burying Ground allowing the French agress and regress for the purpose of Burying their Deas [sic]…" By 1880, this 7 acre plot seems to have been absorbed into the neighbouring Craswell property (then belonging to Harry C Creswell) which then extended all the way to Malpeque/Richmond Bay.
- From an installment of a a series of articles written by Hubert G Compton titled “A Short Sketch of North St. Eleanors", this one published in the Charlottetown Guardian 16 Dec 1906:
“The writer in his last omitted mentioning, Robert, the youngest of the Craswell family. He settled on part of the last purchase a little beyond the Post Office. He became a very prosperous farmer and at his death bequeathed this valuable property to his youngest son Harry. This farm did not extend to Richmond Bay, as the burying place of the first settlers in Lot 17 intervened between it and the Bay.
The ground in use for burials was enclosed by a substantial stone wall and a cross erected in the centre of the enclosure. Father Poirier P.P. of Mischouche had the cross placed there in the year 1840 or about that time. The same priest had the remains taken up and place in Miscouche cemetery many years since, but those who cultivate this field at the present day are strangers to these facts.”
Regarding his Chateau in Normandy France (from a researcher in England):
Harry’s Chateau: That chateau [in St. Launeuc] IS the one Harry bought (visited by Catherine in summer, 2007 - “It was lovely to look into a looking glass and know that the spotty surface once mirrored an ancestral face.... She did not take pictures inside. It was a very formal French affair, lasting an hour with peach juice and cookies. So one would not have even thought to ask [to take photos]. [Although not open to the public] we have been invited back and will continue to send them information.”).
Previousy, it was thought that another chateau in Normandy had belonged to Harry, now proved incorrect: “The chateau mentioned in [her] Family History was not the right one anyway .The one [she] found first was replaced, that was near Quintin, a lovely town with a flourishing market the day we were there.”
[The following is previous speculation (this is confusing because the same chateau name is attributed to 2 different locations!): Chateau La Bryere which is south-east of Quintin in Brittany. It was probably a crumbling ruin... We think Chateau La Bruyere was an estate of his mother’s family. In 1840 it was pulled down and a new chateau was put up by the Comte de Ponthiand de Marsan (letter from Mme Annett Studlet, then owner of Chateau La Bruyere, 1996). It was recently on the market for $1 million (ca 2000).]
, son of Thomas COMPTON (1734-1795) & Frances Mount CHILDEROY (~1739-1829), in Amport, Hampshire, England. Born on 9 Jan 1759 in Amport, Hampshire, England. Christened in Jan 1759 in Amport Church, Hampshire, England. Harry Childeroy died in Chateau De La Bruyere, St. Launeuc, Brittany, France, in 1839; he was 79. Buried abt 1839 in St Launeuc, Brittan, France.- 1759 birth of HARRY COMPTON - IGI entry:
Birth: 09 JAN 1759 Amport, Hampshire, England
Father: THOMAS COMPTON Family
Mother: FRANCES
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
J136521 1665 - 1875 1041196 Film NONE Sheet: 00
[Other sources list Dec 1758 OR other dates in Jan 1759].
- Harry was NOT born in London [previously entered as Marylebone, Middlesex, England]; born in Amport Hampshire England. Cholderton is almost in Wilshire (there is a knowl of trees on Cholderton Hill which were planted by the Comptons who owned abut 1000 acres around there at the end of the 18th centruy.)
MARRIAGES:
- #1, 1779: COMPTON Harry Childeroy and NEWMAN Charlotte, 28 Nov1779, AMPORT [Hampshire, England] [from Phillimore’s Marriage Index]. First wife Charlotte [Newman] died at age 28 in England.
HARRY CHILDEROY COMPTON IGI entry:
Spouse: CHARLOTTE NEWMAN Family
Marriage: 28 NOV 1779 Amport, Hampshire, England
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M136521 1695 - 1876 1041196 Film NONE Sheet: 00
Also found on findmypast: Parish Records Collection marriage
- #2: to Mary Anne* Lyne of Ringwood, Hampshire. Mary Anne Lyne [or Line] of Ringwood, stayed behind in England when Harry moved to Canada. Mary Anne Anne Lyne Compton predecease Harry, being buried in Fordingbridge churyard on Nov 3, 1831. Harry was 73.
- #3: Legend tells that he married once again to a Miss Wells, and that she and their lawyer poisoned him... It sounds unlikely. … Harry’s third wife was Anna Maria Wells, daughter of Commander Thomas Wells RN. She was given the chateau [in Normandy France, by Harry] as a wedding gift. The current owner of the chateau is a descendant of Anna and her second husband, Mr. Lemercier. … Later married ? Wells and had another daughter. ...
Harry`s third wife, Annemary Wells, d of Admirall Wells, was given Chateau de la Bruyere on her wedding day. It is a lovely house belonging to a descendant of her second marriage to M. Lemercier.
- Housekeeper Eleanor Sangster [?] who raised the family and for whom the Village of St. Eleanor’s was named - speculation only that they married [I strongly doubt it]
MILITARY [see further details below]:
- in 1794 was appointed Captain of a company in the Perth Highland Regiment of Fencibles in British Army.
- Harry served as a Major in the Perthshire Fencible regiment between 1794-1799 in Ireland.
- Was granted 20,000 acres, Lot 17, in PEI, in1804 [1803?] for services rendered during Irish Rebellion in 1798.
- Officer in the PEI Militia from 1804-1818. Promoted to Colonel in 1806.
RESIDENCES and LAND:
- From Amport, Hampshire, England. May have lived in Thruxton [England].
- Came to Canada from England in 1804 [1803?] with 1 son and 1 daughter, wife already dead. Located on Lot 17, St. Eleanor's district, Richmond Bay, built residence "Pavillion" finished in 1806, demolished by fire 1844.
- 1813, from http://www.gov.pe.ca/archives/petitions/detail.php?id=440 [2 page document and cover - see 3 images]
Hon. H. Compton, petitioned regarding Bridges and Roads [26 Jul 1813, petition no. 440, RG5, Series4, file 25(2)]
petition notes: “Letter written by the Hon. H. Compton at the Pavillon, dated 26 July 1813, in which he mentions Statue Labour done on the roads’ Also mentions Col. Gray.
- 1815, from http://www.gov.pe.ca/archives/petitions/detail.php?id=469 [2 page document and cover - see 3 images]
Harry Compton, Member of Council, petitioned Governor Charles Douglas Smith of PEI [7 Nov 1815, petition 469, RG5, Series 4, file 27, petition summary: ‘Has served as a member of His Majesty's Council for this Government upwards of Ten Years, "often to the teriment of his private affairs as well as great personal incovenience to himself" due to the great distance of his residence. Requests Pasture Lot No. 17 in Charlotte Town Royalty and an unidentified Town Lot in Charlotte Town. Notes the Pasture Lot No. 17 was located by the late Governor Patterson to John Patterson more than forthy years ago, but it does not appear that "any Grant pass'd the Seals for the same. . . ." ‘ Decision: Referred.
- 1816, from http://www.gov.pe.ca/archives/petitions/detail.php?id=478 [2 page document and cover - see 3 images]
Harry [Henry] Compton, petitions Gov. Charles Douglas Smith [1 Aug 1816, petition no. 478, RG5, Series4, file 28], other petitioners: Mr. Wm Nelis, also mentioned: Col Grey, Col Desbrisay.
Summary: “Petitioner cannot come to town to attend Council due to his recent poor health, but would like to request a Town Lot and two Pasture Lots in Prince Town Royalty. He mentions that he is leaving the Island for a time but will return. Would also like to petition for the money owed to Mr. Wm. Nelis for his time as Clerk of the two Battallions of the Prince County Regiment from March 1805 to December 1815. Petition also provides detail concerning his poor health and desperate financial situation.”
Notes: Letter includes a note dated 2 August 1816 certifying Mr. Wn. Nelis' appointment and services as Clerk to the two Battalions of the Prince County Regiment”
- Moved to Brittany, France - dates vary: 1818? (or about 1826?). [see more on land and travel issues below]
WORK: Landlord. Served as a member of the local assembly for a number of years [PEI].
DEATH: in Brittany, France. 1839, aged 80, on his estate. In France Harry lived at Chateau de la Bruyere [incorrect?] near St. Launeuc, Brittany.
- We think Chateau La Bruyere was an estate of his mother’s family. [now proved incorrect]
- Efforts to find his grave are being made.... [grave not found]
- Harry’s grave disappeared when the graveyard was rearranged for more dead. This is quite common in Brittany as it is stony (they do the same in Greece).
- Prince Edward Island Death Card Index, 1721-1905
Compton, Hon. Henry
age 80. in France, lived for a time on PEI, died 1840
Record from Archives, newspapers.
- Harry was buried in his local churchyard [Brittany, France] but, because Brittany is so stony, the skeletons were dug up and put in the village ossuary, the skul on a shelf with its name and dates. [The village] is St Launeac. Mr Desmier, who owns the chateau, told us. The chapel they worshipped in is still there!
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[See also information under Hubert G. Compton, author of this biography].
Published in the black-covered book “Past and Present of PEI”, page 85:
“About 1800 Colonel Compton came out. He or his connections had purchased the northern part of township 17 from the original grantee. This army officer before leaving England prepared and brought with him all the fittings for a comfortable house, and this he erected on the shore of Richmond Bay, on the west side of the entrance to River Platte. In a lease granted by Mr. Compton to 23 French families, the following stipulations were inserted as the rents to be paid: ‘[most details omitted here]...The said Harry Compton reserves to himself the right of chase on and over the said farms at pleasure.’
No doubt the influence of such a man as Colonel Compton told in determining that St. Eleanor’s, and not Princetown, should have the country court house built within its confines. Some years after he became a resident, the “Old Town Road” was made as far as St. Eleanor’s, then the Anglican church was built on the same site as the present one - the first having been burnt down in about 1844 - and about 1833 the St. Eleanor’s court house and jail was erected by the Government. Here for the next 40 years justice was dispensed for the county by the Supreme Court. Although it never grew to more than a village, yet it was a place of considerable importance, there being stores and tradesmen’s shops clustered in the place.”
From page 86-87: In 1838 or thereabouts, the first part of Queen’s wharf at Summerside was constructed. The land where the town is built belonged to Daniel Green, a Loyalist, who got the grant of the land from Governor Fanning in 1795. After the wharf was begun the road from St. Eleanor’s was connected therewith, but for a number of years afterward those coming from the eastern side, had to reach the wharf by coming along the shore. At first the place as known as “Green’s Shore,” , the “green’s Wharf” then simply “The Wharf” and since that time as Summerside. The story told as to how the latter name was associated with the town is, that one year when spring was near, but yet the cold northerly winds were blowing, a resident from the north slope of Richmond Bay, where the icy blast was still keenly felt, came over to the south side and finding the temperature more mild owing to the heat of the sun, which was now climbing well north, he exclaimed to the first person he met at the wharf, “Why, you have the summer side here.” It is affirmed that is was Colonel Compton who made this remark to old Joseph Green, and that the latter was so taken with it that he had the name placed over the door of his house.”.....St Eleanor’s “went backward” due to the growth of Summerside and to being bypassed by the railroad.
From page 262 regarding the first St. John’s Church; Rev. L. C. Jenkins was sent to St. Eleanor’s as its first rector in the spring of 1824. “There being no church building or parsonage, divine service was held at the “Pavillion”, the residence of Colonel Compton, the proprietor of Lot 17, while the rector found temporary quarters at Mr. George Tanton’s. The parishioners at once set to work to build a parsonage....As soon as the parsonage was completed work was commenced on the church which, though it was not finished until 1831, was then the first belonging exlusively to the Chrch of Encland in PEI. It as later consecrated under the name of “St. John’s Church.”
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Exerpts from A Short History of the Comptons of Chitterne (pgs 58-62) by a Compton researcher in England:
Harry was a Captain in the Perthshire Regiment of Fencible Infantry (PRFI), Napoleonic War... This regiment was founded to perform something like miliary police duties in Ireland, and to fight off the French who arrived in Bantry Bay in Dec 1796. The Perthshires were formed in 1794 under James Robertson and disbanded in 1799.
- Compton, Harry Capt. joined 30 October 1794
- Compton, George Lieut. joined 30 October 1794
- Compton, Edmund Lieut .joined 30 October 1794
- Compton, Arthur Ensign. joined 30 October 1794... Arthur was too young and was sent home...
Harry was under arrest between 18 May and 30 Sept 1795 in the charge of Lt. Col. Richardson and Lt. George Duncan. The reason is not given. [Brother] Edmund had a command during 1795. At some point he went home and died, possibly from a wound, but he did not die in Ireland (Notes from M.D. Warrn).
On Nov 28 1779 Harry married Charlotte Newman, a daughter of Arthur and Joanna Newman of Ringwood. The witnesses were Harry’s uncle George Jennings and his sister-in-law Elizabeth Compton nee Batt. The ceremony took place in Amport Church... It appears that a second Harry Compton married a Charlotte Newman at the church of St Marylebone in the presence of William Camcross and Susannah Rainey. The Charlotte we know was only 17, maybe parental disapproval sent them to marry first in London so it was a fait accompli. But surely one cannot marry in church twice?
Sometime before 1792 Harry remarried. His new wife was Mary Anne Lyne, daughter of Stephen Lyne of Ringwood. The Lynes were a very old Ringwood family, John Lyne founding the Free School there in 1586.... Harry seems to have been given 20,000 acres of perhaps not very wonderful land on PEI, some on Lot 17 and some on 20. He did a deal with one Townsend who also had his land thus, so that they each had a lot of their own... Mary Anne did not want to go to Canada, neither did she send her child with its father. Harry set off with his son Thomas and daughter Charlotte, a servant girl and housekeeper Mrs. Eleanor Sankey [Sangster?], from Portsmouth on the “Teresa”. They left on 23.8.1803 and arrived on 23.9.1803, a long journey by sailing ship through rough seas, icebergs and whales (sailing info from the LDS www.familysearch.org).
[In PEI], Harry was on H.M. Legislative Council and became a Colonel in the local militia. In 1811 he returned from either France or England, maybe this time he brought his daughter with him. Poor Lyne was to die a few years later. Harry left again on 1.8.1816 and must have stayed on a while with his brother George in Chilworth near Southampton as they, along with Thomas their brother, feature in an indenture (mentioned by K. Lane; not found by Catherine Koppana). He missed out on Lyne’s death [in PEI] which happened in September.
In 1824 Harry left for France and went to live at his Chateau de la Bruyere in Saint-Launeuc, Brittany, France [now in the Cotes du Nord province; Google Earth code = 22230]. Catherine located this chateau, I believe through land titles, and visited the location spring 2006 (although they were unable to get a tour of the inside). Catherine previously said that the chateau has been rebuilt since Harry lived there. However, the chateau is apparently the same building where Col. Harry Compton lived - it wasn't rebuilt. Quite a find. [see below for further information on identifying the correct Chateau].
Harry’s grandsons from PEI were sent over to be educated by him and certain deeds were executed by him in 1839 leaving land to each of his grandsons, Harry Alfred and John Newman Compton....
2009 update from author: In 1816 Harry went to England, I have copies of the official notes saying he had gone. While away his daugher Lyne, who lived with her half-brother, Thomas C. Compton, died. Harry returned [to PEI] and then moved to France where he bought the chateau in 1821. I have a copy of the conveyancing got when I visited it.... Harry [originally] left for Canada in 1803, his second wife took their child to church [in England] for presentation to the congregation (privately baptised) not long after this. Lyne Middleton Compton, this daughter, already managed to come to Canada, settle in with Thomas C.C. and die in 1815 [1816?]. I thought I sent you a copy of the family history, it should all be in there, though we know more about Mary Anne Lyne Comtpon now. Harry went back to England in 1816 but returned [to PEI]. He was gone and living in Paris in 1821 and did not return.
Regarding land conveyances and leases:
Regarding leasing land to the Acadians (from http://www.acadian-home.org/Georges-Arsenault-Entrepreneurs-PEI.html): “After [the Acadians’] return to the Island [PEI], following the 1758 Expulsion by the British, dispossessed Acadians spent many years trying to rebuild their communities. Among the factors which hindered them from becoming involved in the world of business was their land occupancy status. As tenants, many did not have the right to venture into commerce since some landlords kept that prerogative for themselves or their associates. That was the case in Lot 17 where, in 1807, 21 Acadian farmers signed leases with Colonel Harry Compton. Their leases, unequivocal in this matter, read: “And the said Tenants are hereby restrained from erecting or suffering to be erected any Corn or Grist Mill on any part of their farm or farms but shall cause their Grains at all times to be ground at the Mill of the Township and no other, neither shall they suffer to be kept any Shop, Store or Tavern on any parts of their respective farms....” “
Another researcher sent a news “Article Aug 1932 - St Eleanors, PEI”
“Old Deed Cited - It is interesting to note at this point, that an old deed, dated 1807 in which Colonel Compton leased lands to James and Charles Cresswell that he reserved to the French the right of egress and regress to their burial ground. An illustration showing the Church and its bounday is in the corner of the deed. This is in the possession of Mrs. Henry W. Compton a great grand-daughter of Colonel Compton. This was the Mission Church, which was afterward moved to Miscouche.”
A Land Conveyance document was drawn up 29 Sep 1814 but not registered until 20 Feb 1817 in PEI. Harry Compton of Saint Eleanors Let to James and Charles Craswell of Richmond Parish a parcel of land known by the name of Churchill, already occupied by James and Charles, described as "Seven Acres a little more or less of Arable dry meadow or clear Land Bounded on the West by Lakes the property of Captain Thomas Compton, on the North by the shore of Richmond Bay on the East by Lands now in the occupation of Mr Benj'n Crossman and on the South by Lands the Property of Mr Wm Craswell". [Note that the annexed plan in the margin was not included; also that William Craswell, father of James and Charles, had purchased 408 acres + 243 acres of land from Harry Compton in 1809.] The lease was for 99 years at the yearly rent of 30 shillings (Great Britain currency). Conditions included "reserving to the said Harry Compton his Heirs Executors and Administrators the width of six feet together with a Dyke round said Premises to the Burying Ground allowing the French agress and regress for the purpose of Burying their Deas [sic]…" By 1880, this 7 acre plot seems to have been absorbed into the neighbouring Craswell property (then belonging to Harry C Creswell) which then extended all the way to Malpeque/Richmond Bay.
- From an installment of a a series of articles written by Hubert G Compton titled “A Short Sketch of North St. Eleanors", this one published in the Charlottetown Guardian 16 Dec 1906:
“The writer in his last omitted mentioning, Robert, the youngest of the Craswell family. He settled on part of the last purchase a little beyond the Post Office. He became a very prosperous farmer and at his death bequeathed this valuable property to his youngest son Harry. This farm did not extend to Richmond Bay, as the burying place of the first settlers in Lot 17 intervened between it and the Bay.
The ground in use for burials was enclosed by a substantial stone wall and a cross erected in the centre of the enclosure. Father Poirier P.P. of Mischouche had the cross placed there in the year 1840 or about that time. The same priest had the remains taken up and place in Miscouche cemetery many years since, but those who cultivate this field at the present day are strangers to these facts.”
Regarding his Chateau in Normandy France (from a researcher in England):
Harry’s Chateau: That chateau [in St. Launeuc] IS the one Harry bought (visited by Catherine in summer, 2007 - “It was lovely to look into a looking glass and know that the spotty surface once mirrored an ancestral face.... She did not take pictures inside. It was a very formal French affair, lasting an hour with peach juice and cookies. So one would not have even thought to ask [to take photos]. [Although not open to the public] we have been invited back and will continue to send them information.”).
Previousy, it was thought that another chateau in Normandy had belonged to Harry, now proved incorrect: “The chateau mentioned in [her] Family History was not the right one anyway .The one [she] found first was replaced, that was near Quintin, a lovely town with a flourishing market the day we were there.”
[The following is previous speculation (this is confusing because the same chateau name is attributed to 2 different locations!): Chateau La Bryere which is south-east of Quintin in Brittany. It was probably a crumbling ruin... We think Chateau La Bruyere was an estate of his mother’s family. In 1840 it was pulled down and a new chateau was put up by the Comte de Ponthiand de Marsan (letter from Mme Annett Studlet, then owner of Chateau La Bruyere, 1996). It was recently on the market for $1 million (ca 2000).]
They had the following children:
75i.
Arthur Newman COMPTON (1782-1805)
76ii.
Major Thomas Compton COMPTON (~1789-1850)
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Charlotte Alicia Lisle* COMPTON (1785-1878)
67. Arthur NEWMAN (Joanna WHITAKER7, Jeremiah6, Jeremiah5, Margaret LISLE4, John3, William2, Anthony1). Born on 15 Jun 1762 in Hampshire, England. Christened on 1 Jul 1767 in Ringwood, Hampshire, England. Arthur died in ? India, in 1789; he was 26. Occupation: Lieut.IFC.
- 1767 Christened 1 Jul 1767 in Ringwood, Hampshire. 3 older siblings were all baptised 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood.
1767 England Births and Christenings
Name: Arthur Newman
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 01 Jul 1767
Christening Place: RINGWOOD,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 15 Jun 1762
Father's Name: Arthur Newman
Mother's Name: Joannah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15056-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0994051 IT 3-5
- Indian Army, a Lieutenant of the East Indies
RESEARCH NOTES:
- Daphne King on genesreunited has an Arthur A Newman (born/baptised 1762) in her tree and is hoping that Arthur Newman and Joanna were his parents - turned out to be a different Arthur Atherley Newman.
- 1767 Christened 1 Jul 1767 in Ringwood, Hampshire. 3 older siblings were all baptised 30 Aug 1760 in Ringwood.
1767 England Births and Christenings
Name: Arthur Newman
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 01 Jul 1767
Christening Place: RINGWOOD,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 15 Jun 1762
Father's Name: Arthur Newman
Mother's Name: Joannah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15056-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 0994051 IT 3-5
- Indian Army, a Lieutenant of the East Indies
RESEARCH NOTES:
- Daphne King on genesreunited has an Arthur A Newman (born/baptised 1762) in her tree and is hoping that Arthur Newman and Joanna were his parents - turned out to be a different Arthur Atherley Newman.