Ninth Generation (Continued)
Family of Thomas ANDREW (377) & Alice FOUND
662. William Fry ANDREW (Thomas8, Honour GRIGG7, Elizabeth CORNISH6, Mary ADAMS5, John4, Mary NEALE3, John2, Bennett1). Born on 14 Sep 1834 in Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England. Christened on 30 Oct 1834 in Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England. William Fry died in Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England, on 24 Aug 1837; he was 2. Buried on 27 Aug 1837 in St James, Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England.
- 1834 baptism: “William Fray, son of Thomas Andrew(s?) and of Alice his wife was born September 14th 1834 in the parish of kilkhampton, in the count of Cornwall, and baptised 30th October 1834 byMr William Harvey Miniter”
- 1837: Death reg (as William Fray) Sep qtr 1837 at Stratton dist (ref FreeBMD).
- 1837: Burial in Kilkhampton 27 Aug 1837 of William Fry Andrew, age 2 Cornwall: Kilkhampton - Register Booke of the Parrishe of Kilkehamptonie for Baptisinge, Weddinge and Burryeinge, 1539-1599 [continues thru 1839] Burials 1837 County: Cornwall Country: England 27 Aug 1837 William Fry Andrew 2
- 1837: Burial records from Kilkhampton Anglican Church:
1837 - Willliam Fry Andrew, age 2. Tombstone in Kilkhampton Anglican Church graveyard says:
“Erected To Perpetuate the Memory of William Fray:
Son of Thomas and Alice Andrew of the Town
who died August 24th in the year of our Lord 1837.
In the 3rd year of his age.
“The lovely bud, so young, so fair,
Call’d hence by early doom,
Just came to show how sweet a flower
In Paradise would bloom”
- 1834 baptism: “William Fray, son of Thomas Andrew(s?) and of Alice his wife was born September 14th 1834 in the parish of kilkhampton, in the count of Cornwall, and baptised 30th October 1834 byMr William Harvey Miniter”
- 1837: Death reg (as William Fray) Sep qtr 1837 at Stratton dist (ref FreeBMD).
- 1837: Burial in Kilkhampton 27 Aug 1837 of William Fry Andrew, age 2 Cornwall: Kilkhampton - Register Booke of the Parrishe of Kilkehamptonie for Baptisinge, Weddinge and Burryeinge, 1539-1599 [continues thru 1839] Burials 1837 County: Cornwall Country: England 27 Aug 1837 William Fry Andrew 2
- 1837: Burial records from Kilkhampton Anglican Church:
1837 - Willliam Fry Andrew, age 2. Tombstone in Kilkhampton Anglican Church graveyard says:
“Erected To Perpetuate the Memory of William Fray:
Son of Thomas and Alice Andrew of the Town
who died August 24th in the year of our Lord 1837.
In the 3rd year of his age.
“The lovely bud, so young, so fair,
Call’d hence by early doom,
Just came to show how sweet a flower
In Paradise would bloom”
663. Fanny ANDREW (Thomas8, Honour GRIGG7, Elizabeth CORNISH6, Mary ADAMS5, John4, Mary NEALE3, John2, Bennett1). Born on 29 Sep 1836 in Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England. Christened on 21 Oct 1836 in Wesleyan, Holsworthy, Devon, England. Fanny died in Newport, Monmouth, Wales, on 5 Jan 1874; she was 37. Buried in 1874 in Newport, Monmouth, Wales.
- 1836 baptism: Fanny Andrew, daughter of Thomas (Saddler) and Alice, living in Kilkhampton Cornwall, baptised Wesleyan in Holsworthy Devon on 212 Oct 1836
- 1841 census in Commercial Street, Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England living with her parents.
- 1851 census - Fanny listed age 14, living with mother Alice Andrews, widow, sister Sarah Ann and brother Thomas in St. Woollos, Newpport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Ref 1851 census. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of St Woollos. Town of Newport. Address: 19 Potter Street, Newport.
Together with her mother and 2 siblings:
Fanny Andrews. Daur. Age 14. Student. Born Cornwall, Kilkhampton.
1851 Wales Census about Fanny Andrews
Name: Fanny Andrews
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Alice Andrews
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish or Township: St Woollos
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration District: Newport
Sub-registration District: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Piece: 2452
Folio: 166
Page Number: 3
Household Schedule Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Andrews 49
Fanny Andrews 14
Sarah Ann Andrews 12
Thomas Andrews 9
- 1858: Fanny Andrew married Samuel Cornish Davie in Newport on 20th September 1858 11a 241. Witness Frances Gregory and James Roberts.
Marr reg Sep qtr 1858 at Newport M dist, Monmouthshire, Wales to Samuel Cornish DAVIE (ref FreeBMD).
Transcription of marriage certificate:
1858 Marriage solemnized at the parish Church in the parish of St Woolos in the Count of Monmouth?
Samuel Corish Davies, full? age, bachelor, ship carpenter St Woolos residence, father John Davie [or Davis], Mariner
Fanny Andrew, full? age, spinster, -, St Woolos, Thomas Andrew, Saddler
Married in the parish church … by Bannes by me, Ed’d Hawkins Vicar
This Marriage was solemnized between us, Samuel Croreosh? Davie, Fanny Andrew, in the Presence of us The mark x of Frances Gregory, James Roberts
- 1861 census Fanny (NOTJane!) living at 11 Frederick Street with Samuel Davie not Davies. - census taker had a bad hair day!)
Ref 1861 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of Newport St Woollos. Registration district of Newport. Address: 11 Frederick St, Newport.
Together with sister Sarah Ann Dark (22) and her son John Thos Dark (1) and their mother Alice Andrews (59):
Samuel Davies. Head. Marr. Age 23. Ship Carpenter. Born Devon, Ilfracombe. [incorrect entry for Davie]
Jane Davies. Wife. Mar. Age 24. Born Devon, Kilkhampton. [incorrect entry for Fanny]
- 1868: 20 Feb 1868, residence 4 Albion Street, Newport, Mon
- 1871 - The England 1871 census has Fanny Davie and Samuel Davie living in Ilfracombe, no children. (Fanny Davie nee Andrew(s), Samuel Cornish Davie, Mariner, living at 2, Briannia Place)... After their marriage, Fanny and Samuel are to be found living in 1871 at 11 Frederick Street, Newport, with Fanny's mother Alice Andrews (aged 59) and her sister, Sarah Ann, aged 22 and now married to John Dark, (who is presumably away at sea) and their son John Richard Dark aged 1.
Ref 1871 census. Devon, England. Civil Parish of Ilfracombe. Registration district of Barnstaple. Address: 2 Britannia Place, Ilfracombe.
Samuel Davie. Head. M. Age 33. Shipwright. Born Devon, Ilfracombe.
Fanny Davie. Wife. M. Age 34. Born Devon, Kilkhampton.
- 1874 Fanny's death reg Mar qtr 1874 at Newport M. dist aged 37 (ref FreeBMD).
- 1874 Probate summary: DAVIE Fannie. Effects not exceeing 100 pounds. 27 April. Administration of the effects of Fannie Davie (Wife of Samuel Cornish Davie) late of Newport in the County of Monmouth who died 5 Jan 1875 at Newport was granted at Llandaff to the said Samuel Cornish Davie of 3 William-street Newport Shipwright.
- 1874: “Fanny was buried next to her mother just her headstone stands there now,Fanny's resting place is with her mother in St. Woolos Cemetery.”
RESEARCH NOTES:
- check out discrepencies in census, marriage and death information! Not all is certain!
Others claim:
- Fanny Andrew b. 1837 Kilkhampton Thomas and Allise's daur. She married Samuel Cornish Davie b. 1837 from Illfracombe Devon. ...Married in Newport 1858 Living 28 Frederick St Newport.... Fanny dies Newport 15 Jan 1874. buried Newport
- Died after 1841 Census in Berry Lane Padstow. Correction: Fanny dies Newport 15 Jan 1874. buried Newport
- also shown as marrying Samuel Davie in Newport Gwent Wales, Sep1868 [wrong year, wrong county]
- It is yet to be confirmed that John William Davie born Q3 1858 and died Q4 1859 is their son.
- [If she died in 1874, how can this be…] In 1881 Fanny and Samuel had returned to Ilfracombe, living at 2 Britannia Place.
- 1836 baptism: Fanny Andrew, daughter of Thomas (Saddler) and Alice, living in Kilkhampton Cornwall, baptised Wesleyan in Holsworthy Devon on 212 Oct 1836
- 1841 census in Commercial Street, Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England living with her parents.
- 1851 census - Fanny listed age 14, living with mother Alice Andrews, widow, sister Sarah Ann and brother Thomas in St. Woollos, Newpport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Ref 1851 census. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of St Woollos. Town of Newport. Address: 19 Potter Street, Newport.
Together with her mother and 2 siblings:
Fanny Andrews. Daur. Age 14. Student. Born Cornwall, Kilkhampton.
1851 Wales Census about Fanny Andrews
Name: Fanny Andrews
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Alice Andrews
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish or Township: St Woollos
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration District: Newport
Sub-registration District: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Piece: 2452
Folio: 166
Page Number: 3
Household Schedule Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Andrews 49
Fanny Andrews 14
Sarah Ann Andrews 12
Thomas Andrews 9
- 1858: Fanny Andrew married Samuel Cornish Davie in Newport on 20th September 1858 11a 241. Witness Frances Gregory and James Roberts.
Marr reg Sep qtr 1858 at Newport M dist, Monmouthshire, Wales to Samuel Cornish DAVIE (ref FreeBMD).
Transcription of marriage certificate:
1858 Marriage solemnized at the parish Church in the parish of St Woolos in the Count of Monmouth?
Samuel Corish Davies, full? age, bachelor, ship carpenter St Woolos residence, father John Davie [or Davis], Mariner
Fanny Andrew, full? age, spinster, -, St Woolos, Thomas Andrew, Saddler
Married in the parish church … by Bannes by me, Ed’d Hawkins Vicar
This Marriage was solemnized between us, Samuel Croreosh? Davie, Fanny Andrew, in the Presence of us The mark x of Frances Gregory, James Roberts
- 1861 census Fanny (NOTJane!) living at 11 Frederick Street with Samuel Davie not Davies. - census taker had a bad hair day!)
Ref 1861 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of Newport St Woollos. Registration district of Newport. Address: 11 Frederick St, Newport.
Together with sister Sarah Ann Dark (22) and her son John Thos Dark (1) and their mother Alice Andrews (59):
Samuel Davies. Head. Marr. Age 23. Ship Carpenter. Born Devon, Ilfracombe. [incorrect entry for Davie]
Jane Davies. Wife. Mar. Age 24. Born Devon, Kilkhampton. [incorrect entry for Fanny]
- 1868: 20 Feb 1868, residence 4 Albion Street, Newport, Mon
- 1871 - The England 1871 census has Fanny Davie and Samuel Davie living in Ilfracombe, no children. (Fanny Davie nee Andrew(s), Samuel Cornish Davie, Mariner, living at 2, Briannia Place)... After their marriage, Fanny and Samuel are to be found living in 1871 at 11 Frederick Street, Newport, with Fanny's mother Alice Andrews (aged 59) and her sister, Sarah Ann, aged 22 and now married to John Dark, (who is presumably away at sea) and their son John Richard Dark aged 1.
Ref 1871 census. Devon, England. Civil Parish of Ilfracombe. Registration district of Barnstaple. Address: 2 Britannia Place, Ilfracombe.
Samuel Davie. Head. M. Age 33. Shipwright. Born Devon, Ilfracombe.
Fanny Davie. Wife. M. Age 34. Born Devon, Kilkhampton.
- 1874 Fanny's death reg Mar qtr 1874 at Newport M. dist aged 37 (ref FreeBMD).
- 1874 Probate summary: DAVIE Fannie. Effects not exceeing 100 pounds. 27 April. Administration of the effects of Fannie Davie (Wife of Samuel Cornish Davie) late of Newport in the County of Monmouth who died 5 Jan 1875 at Newport was granted at Llandaff to the said Samuel Cornish Davie of 3 William-street Newport Shipwright.
- 1874: “Fanny was buried next to her mother just her headstone stands there now,Fanny's resting place is with her mother in St. Woolos Cemetery.”
RESEARCH NOTES:
- check out discrepencies in census, marriage and death information! Not all is certain!
Others claim:
- Fanny Andrew b. 1837 Kilkhampton Thomas and Allise's daur. She married Samuel Cornish Davie b. 1837 from Illfracombe Devon. ...Married in Newport 1858 Living 28 Frederick St Newport.... Fanny dies Newport 15 Jan 1874. buried Newport
- Died after 1841 Census in Berry Lane Padstow. Correction: Fanny dies Newport 15 Jan 1874. buried Newport
- also shown as marrying Samuel Davie in Newport Gwent Wales, Sep1868 [wrong year, wrong county]
- It is yet to be confirmed that John William Davie born Q3 1858 and died Q4 1859 is their son.
- [If she died in 1874, how can this be…] In 1881 Fanny and Samuel had returned to Ilfracombe, living at 2 Britannia Place.
On 20 Sep 1858 when Fanny was 21, she married Samuel Cornish DAVIE in Parish Church Of St Woolos, Newport, Monmouth, Wales. Born on 31 Aug 1837 in Illfracombe, Devon, England. Samuel Cornish died in Newport, Monmouth, Wales, on 11 Oct 1889; he was 52. Occupation: Boat Builder.
- 1837: He was born 1837 in Ilfracombe, Devon. [marriage record]
- He lived in the famous Lantern Hill Lighthouse Ilfracombe [Devon, England] with 8 siblings
- Occupation Boat Builder
- Samuel had much family in this area, his father being John Davie Lighthouse keeper of Lantern Hill, a former Chapel called St. Nicholas Church.
He was a Shipwright, his family were Mariner's and a Light House Keeper.
- 1861 Wales Census
Name: Samuel Davies
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Davies
Gender: Male
Where born: Ilfracombe, Devon, England
Civil Parish or Township: Newport St Woollos
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration District: Newport
Sub-registration District: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household Schedule Number: 200
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4020
Folio: 68
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Davies 23
Jane Davies 26
Sarah Ann Dark 22
John Thos Dark 1
- 1874: Samuel remarried Dec qtr 1874 at Oakham dist, Rutland to Louisa NEESHAM (ref FreeBMD). They had 8 children.
- After the death of Fanny [in 1874], Samuel remarried to a Louisa Neesham born 1844 in Crickhowell, Louisa and Samuel had eight children they lived at 46, Capel Street.
Their 'adopted son' Samuel Dark is shown in the 1881 census as living with them at 46, Capel Street.
A report in the local paper dated October 1872 is ; Samuel saved a drowning boy
Sidney Cornish Davie who is a son of Samuel Cornish Davie born 1837 emigrated to Australia from Newport with his wife Mildred in 1912. Their son is Raymond Neesham Davie.
Louisa ended her days at 25, Balmoral Road in 1921 being interned at Christchurch Cemetery.
- 1881 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of St Woollos. Registration district of Newport. Address: 46 Capel Street, St Woollos.
Together with Samuel & Louisa's children Minnie (5), Phillip (4), Grace (2), Henrietta (11m):
Samuel E Davie. Head. Mar. Age 42. Ship Carpenter. Born Ilfracombe Devon. [indexed in findmypast as Davies]
Louisa Davie. Wife. Mar. Age 26. Born Crichowell, Brecknockshire.
Samuel Dark. Adopted Son. Age 14. Sailor. [actually Samuel's 1st wife Fanny's nephew]
- 1889: Samuel's death reg Dec qtr 1889 at Newport M. dist aged 52 (ref FreeBMD).
Samuel died Q4 1889 in Newport age 52. 11a 115.
- 1889 England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Samuel Cornish Davie
Probate Date: 5 Dec 1889
Death Date: 11 Oct 1889
Death Place: Monmouthshire, Wales
Registry: Principal Registry
Probate summary transcription: “DAVIE Samuel Cornish. Personal Estate 290 pounds. 5 December. Administration of the Personal Estate of Samuel Cornish Davie late of 46 Chapel-street Newport in the County of Monmouth Shipwright who died 11 October 1889 at 46 Capel-street was granted at the Principal Registry to Louisa Davie of 46 Capel-street Widow the Relict.”
RESEARCH NOTES:
- From another researcher: Samuel is mentioned by several tree owners on Genes and Ancestry and I must thank the Great Great Great Grandson of Thomas Davie Samuel's brother, Shaun [may spell their last name as Davy] and his wife Nia very much for all the infomation they have given us.
- 1837: He was born 1837 in Ilfracombe, Devon. [marriage record]
- He lived in the famous Lantern Hill Lighthouse Ilfracombe [Devon, England] with 8 siblings
- Occupation Boat Builder
- Samuel had much family in this area, his father being John Davie Lighthouse keeper of Lantern Hill, a former Chapel called St. Nicholas Church.
He was a Shipwright, his family were Mariner's and a Light House Keeper.
- 1861 Wales Census
Name: Samuel Davies
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Davies
Gender: Male
Where born: Ilfracombe, Devon, England
Civil Parish or Township: Newport St Woollos
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration District: Newport
Sub-registration District: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household Schedule Number: 200
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4020
Folio: 68
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Davies 23
Jane Davies 26
Sarah Ann Dark 22
John Thos Dark 1
- 1874: Samuel remarried Dec qtr 1874 at Oakham dist, Rutland to Louisa NEESHAM (ref FreeBMD). They had 8 children.
- After the death of Fanny [in 1874], Samuel remarried to a Louisa Neesham born 1844 in Crickhowell, Louisa and Samuel had eight children they lived at 46, Capel Street.
Their 'adopted son' Samuel Dark is shown in the 1881 census as living with them at 46, Capel Street.
A report in the local paper dated October 1872 is ; Samuel saved a drowning boy
Sidney Cornish Davie who is a son of Samuel Cornish Davie born 1837 emigrated to Australia from Newport with his wife Mildred in 1912. Their son is Raymond Neesham Davie.
Louisa ended her days at 25, Balmoral Road in 1921 being interned at Christchurch Cemetery.
- 1881 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of St Woollos. Registration district of Newport. Address: 46 Capel Street, St Woollos.
Together with Samuel & Louisa's children Minnie (5), Phillip (4), Grace (2), Henrietta (11m):
Samuel E Davie. Head. Mar. Age 42. Ship Carpenter. Born Ilfracombe Devon. [indexed in findmypast as Davies]
Louisa Davie. Wife. Mar. Age 26. Born Crichowell, Brecknockshire.
Samuel Dark. Adopted Son. Age 14. Sailor. [actually Samuel's 1st wife Fanny's nephew]
- 1889: Samuel's death reg Dec qtr 1889 at Newport M. dist aged 52 (ref FreeBMD).
Samuel died Q4 1889 in Newport age 52. 11a 115.
- 1889 England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Samuel Cornish Davie
Probate Date: 5 Dec 1889
Death Date: 11 Oct 1889
Death Place: Monmouthshire, Wales
Registry: Principal Registry
Probate summary transcription: “DAVIE Samuel Cornish. Personal Estate 290 pounds. 5 December. Administration of the Personal Estate of Samuel Cornish Davie late of 46 Chapel-street Newport in the County of Monmouth Shipwright who died 11 October 1889 at 46 Capel-street was granted at the Principal Registry to Louisa Davie of 46 Capel-street Widow the Relict.”
RESEARCH NOTES:
- From another researcher: Samuel is mentioned by several tree owners on Genes and Ancestry and I must thank the Great Great Great Grandson of Thomas Davie Samuel's brother, Shaun [may spell their last name as Davy] and his wife Nia very much for all the infomation they have given us.
They had one child:
1088i.
John William DAVIE (Died as Infant) (1858-1858)
664. Sarah Ann ANDREW (Thomas8, Honour GRIGG7, Elizabeth CORNISH6, Mary ADAMS5, John4, Mary NEALE3, John2, Bennett1). Born on 31 Dec 1838 in Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England. Christened on 20 Jan 1839 in Kilkhampton Wesleyan Methodist, Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England. Sarah Ann died in Carrington, Newcastle, NSW, Australia, on 2 Dec 1907; she was 68. Buried in 1907 in Baptist Section, Sandgate Cemetery.
- 1838: Birth reg (as Sarah Ann Andrew) Mar qtr 1839 at Stratton Dist (ref FreeBMD). Born 31 Dec 1838 at Kilkhampton (ref LDS member in IGI). no doubt based on age at baptism...
- 1839 Baptism record 112514 in the Baptisms Nc database
Baptism Circuit Kilkhampton Wesleyan Methodist
Forename Sarah Ann
Surname ANDREW
Sex d of
Father Forename Thomas
Mother Forename Alice
Residence Kilkhampton
Parish Or Reg District
Father Rank Profession
Day Month 20-Jan
Year 1839
Age 3 weeks
Where Baptised
Transcriber Alan Rowloand
- 1841 census - Living in Commercial Street, Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England with her parents.
- 1841 census. Cornwall, England. Civil parish of Kilkhampton. Address: Kilkhampton.
Together with her parents and 1 sibling:
Sarah Andrew. Age 2. Born in Cornwall.
- 1851 census - Residence in St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales, age 13 - errors in census - incorrectly shows her as the daughter of Samuel and Jane [Davies] - it was Sarah’s sister Fanny who married Samuel Cornish Davie(s) - in the words of Samuell’s descendent: “the enumerator had a bad hair day”
- 1851 census. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of St Woollos. Town of Newport. Address: 19 Potter Street, Newport.
Together with her mother and 2 siblings:
Sarah Ann Andrews. Daur. Age 12. Student. Born Cornwall, Kilkhampton.
- 1857 marriage - Marr (1) reg Mar qtr 1857 at Newport M. dist of Sarah Ann Andrews to John DARK (ref FreeBMD). The marriage was 1 Mar 1857 at Newport (ref LDS member in IGI).
- 1861 census - Residence in Newport St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales, age 23
Ref 1861 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of Newport St Woollos. Registration district of Newport. Address: 11 Frederick St, Newport.
Together with son John Thos Dark (1), sister Fanny (indexed as Jane) and husband Samuel, and mother Alice Andrews (59):
Sarah Ann Dark. Dau. Age 22. Born Devon, Kilkhampton. [indexed as Clark]
AND
British Ships in home ports. Vessel: PetSchooner Coasting. Port: Padstow.
John Dark. Mar. Age 23. Ab Seaman. Born Padstow Cornwall.
- 1871 census - Residence in St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales
Ref 1871 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil parish of St Woollos. Registration district of Newport. Address: Albion Street, St Woollos, Newport.
Together with children John Thomas (11), Alice Jane (9), Henry (6), Samuel (4), Fanny (1):
John Dark. Head. M. Age 34. Master Mariner. Born Cornwall Padstow.
Sarah Ann Dark. Wife. M. Age 32. Born Cornwall Kilkhampton.
- 1875: Marr (2) reg Mar qtr 1875 at Newport M dist of Sarah Ann Dark to John HOPKINS (ref FreeBMD).
- Sarah did not move to Australia until after she married her second husband. [married John Hopkins 1875] Sarah Ann had another 4 [3?] children with her second husband after coming to Australia
- the British Index entry for the marriage of Sarah Ann Dark and John Hopkins is:
1st Q, 1875 Newport M., Glamorganshire, Wales, Vol. 11a, page 217.
- The family came straight [from UK] to Newcastle [NSW, Australia] via an unusual route - that of Queensland [Australia]. [Emigrated between 1876 and 1879, based on the kids' places of birth.] They dropped off the eldest girl to work as a house maid, first embarkation site. She was only about 15 years. However the brother went some time later and brought her back to Newcastle. The mother, Sarah Ann had remarried a Blacksmith [John Hopkins] after the death of her first husband [John Dark], Master Mariner in Wales. Maybe there was more work in Newcastle at that time. Another son, Samuel [Dark], a sailor, followed to Newcastle in the 1890’s and became very prosperous. Commencing an Ice Works which only ceased operation in the late 1970’s. Some family memebers did very nicely with shares. Surprisingly, a playhouse ran this year [2007] for a month, being in memory of “Sam Dark”. He had given very generously to WW1 efforts and gave to many other worthwhile ventures here in Newcastle. He didn’t live long either, dying in 1929 [1921?].
- 1907: Sarah's death reg 1907 at Wickham dist, NSW (NSW reg 16292).
- Buried in Baptist Section Sandgate with John and Fanny.
RESEARCH NOTES:
- originally thought Sarah married John Hopkins in 1873, and had a baby John Hopkins who died as an infant; both are incorrect as she had a son John Thomas Dark, and her marriage wasn’t until 1875.
- 1838: Birth reg (as Sarah Ann Andrew) Mar qtr 1839 at Stratton Dist (ref FreeBMD). Born 31 Dec 1838 at Kilkhampton (ref LDS member in IGI). no doubt based on age at baptism...
- 1839 Baptism record 112514 in the Baptisms Nc database
Baptism Circuit Kilkhampton Wesleyan Methodist
Forename Sarah Ann
Surname ANDREW
Sex d of
Father Forename Thomas
Mother Forename Alice
Residence Kilkhampton
Parish Or Reg District
Father Rank Profession
Day Month 20-Jan
Year 1839
Age 3 weeks
Where Baptised
Transcriber Alan Rowloand
- 1841 census - Living in Commercial Street, Kilkhampton, Cornwall, England with her parents.
- 1841 census. Cornwall, England. Civil parish of Kilkhampton. Address: Kilkhampton.
Together with her parents and 1 sibling:
Sarah Andrew. Age 2. Born in Cornwall.
- 1851 census - Residence in St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales, age 13 - errors in census - incorrectly shows her as the daughter of Samuel and Jane [Davies] - it was Sarah’s sister Fanny who married Samuel Cornish Davie(s) - in the words of Samuell’s descendent: “the enumerator had a bad hair day”
- 1851 census. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of St Woollos. Town of Newport. Address: 19 Potter Street, Newport.
Together with her mother and 2 siblings:
Sarah Ann Andrews. Daur. Age 12. Student. Born Cornwall, Kilkhampton.
- 1857 marriage - Marr (1) reg Mar qtr 1857 at Newport M. dist of Sarah Ann Andrews to John DARK (ref FreeBMD). The marriage was 1 Mar 1857 at Newport (ref LDS member in IGI).
- 1861 census - Residence in Newport St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales, age 23
Ref 1861 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of Newport St Woollos. Registration district of Newport. Address: 11 Frederick St, Newport.
Together with son John Thos Dark (1), sister Fanny (indexed as Jane) and husband Samuel, and mother Alice Andrews (59):
Sarah Ann Dark. Dau. Age 22. Born Devon, Kilkhampton. [indexed as Clark]
AND
British Ships in home ports. Vessel: PetSchooner Coasting. Port: Padstow.
John Dark. Mar. Age 23. Ab Seaman. Born Padstow Cornwall.
- 1871 census - Residence in St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales
Ref 1871 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil parish of St Woollos. Registration district of Newport. Address: Albion Street, St Woollos, Newport.
Together with children John Thomas (11), Alice Jane (9), Henry (6), Samuel (4), Fanny (1):
John Dark. Head. M. Age 34. Master Mariner. Born Cornwall Padstow.
Sarah Ann Dark. Wife. M. Age 32. Born Cornwall Kilkhampton.
- 1875: Marr (2) reg Mar qtr 1875 at Newport M dist of Sarah Ann Dark to John HOPKINS (ref FreeBMD).
- Sarah did not move to Australia until after she married her second husband. [married John Hopkins 1875] Sarah Ann had another 4 [3?] children with her second husband after coming to Australia
- the British Index entry for the marriage of Sarah Ann Dark and John Hopkins is:
1st Q, 1875 Newport M., Glamorganshire, Wales, Vol. 11a, page 217.
- The family came straight [from UK] to Newcastle [NSW, Australia] via an unusual route - that of Queensland [Australia]. [Emigrated between 1876 and 1879, based on the kids' places of birth.] They dropped off the eldest girl to work as a house maid, first embarkation site. She was only about 15 years. However the brother went some time later and brought her back to Newcastle. The mother, Sarah Ann had remarried a Blacksmith [John Hopkins] after the death of her first husband [John Dark], Master Mariner in Wales. Maybe there was more work in Newcastle at that time. Another son, Samuel [Dark], a sailor, followed to Newcastle in the 1890’s and became very prosperous. Commencing an Ice Works which only ceased operation in the late 1970’s. Some family memebers did very nicely with shares. Surprisingly, a playhouse ran this year [2007] for a month, being in memory of “Sam Dark”. He had given very generously to WW1 efforts and gave to many other worthwhile ventures here in Newcastle. He didn’t live long either, dying in 1929 [1921?].
- 1907: Sarah's death reg 1907 at Wickham dist, NSW (NSW reg 16292).
- Buried in Baptist Section Sandgate with John and Fanny.
RESEARCH NOTES:
- originally thought Sarah married John Hopkins in 1873, and had a baby John Hopkins who died as an infant; both are incorrect as she had a son John Thomas Dark, and her marriage wasn’t until 1875.
On 1 Mar 1857 when Sarah Ann was 18, she first married John DARK, son of John DARK & Jane JENNINGS, in Newport Registry Office, Gwent, Wales. Born on 12 May 1837 in Padstow, Cornwall, England. Christened on 12 May 1837 in Padstow, Cornwall, England. John died in 20 Albion Street, Newport, Wales, on 8 Aug 1871; he was 34. Buried in 1871 in Churchyard St Woolas Newport? Cemetery. Occupation: Master Mariner.
- 1837: John was born 1837 at Padstow, Cornwall. He was bap 12 May 1837 at Padstow (ref LDS member in IGI). Son of John Dark (ships carpenter) and Jane Jennings
- 1841 census: age 4, residing in Padstow, Cornwall, England
HO 107/150, Book 10 Folio 20 Page 32, Enumeration District 1, Civil Parish of Padstow:
Berry Lane,1,Jane Dark,,35,,In county,
,,Jane Dark,,8,,In county,
,,John Dark,4,,,In county,
,,Mary Massey,,15,Female Servant,Not in county,"age ""above 15"""
- 1861 census: age 24, living in Vessels, Cornwall, England
- 1861 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of Newport St Woollos. Registration district of Newport.
British Ships in home ports. Vessel: PetSchooner Coasting. Port: Padstow.
John Dark. Mar. Age 23. Ab Seaman. Born Padstow Cornwall.
- 1871, Aug 8, died at age 34 in Newport, Monmouth, Wales
- John Dark was born Padstow Cornwall and died of Smallpox in Newport Wales. Possibly buried in the back yard to avoid being buried in a communal grave with other plaque victims!
- 1871: Died in 12 days from smallpox.
John's death reg Sep qtr 1871 at Newport M dist aged 35 (ref FreeBMD). He died 8 Aug 1871 at 20 Albion St Newport (ref LDS member in IGI).
RESEARCH NOTES:
- Sarah Ann Andrews husband John Dark - you have him born at Padstow, NSW, Australia, it shoud be Padstow, Cornwall, England. At least that is what it says on the 1871 census.
- 1837: John was born 1837 at Padstow, Cornwall. He was bap 12 May 1837 at Padstow (ref LDS member in IGI). Son of John Dark (ships carpenter) and Jane Jennings
- 1841 census: age 4, residing in Padstow, Cornwall, England
HO 107/150, Book 10 Folio 20 Page 32, Enumeration District 1, Civil Parish of Padstow:
Berry Lane,1,Jane Dark,,35,,In county,
,,Jane Dark,,8,,In county,
,,John Dark,4,,,In county,
,,Mary Massey,,15,Female Servant,Not in county,"age ""above 15"""
- 1861 census: age 24, living in Vessels, Cornwall, England
- 1861 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of Newport St Woollos. Registration district of Newport.
British Ships in home ports. Vessel: PetSchooner Coasting. Port: Padstow.
John Dark. Mar. Age 23. Ab Seaman. Born Padstow Cornwall.
- 1871, Aug 8, died at age 34 in Newport, Monmouth, Wales
- John Dark was born Padstow Cornwall and died of Smallpox in Newport Wales. Possibly buried in the back yard to avoid being buried in a communal grave with other plaque victims!
- 1871: Died in 12 days from smallpox.
John's death reg Sep qtr 1871 at Newport M dist aged 35 (ref FreeBMD). He died 8 Aug 1871 at 20 Albion St Newport (ref LDS member in IGI).
RESEARCH NOTES:
- Sarah Ann Andrews husband John Dark - you have him born at Padstow, NSW, Australia, it shoud be Padstow, Cornwall, England. At least that is what it says on the 1871 census.
They had the following children:
1089i.
William Fray DARK (Died as Infant) (1857-1858)
1090ii.
John Thomas DARK (1860-1941)
1091iii.
Alice Jane DARK (1861-1953)
1092iv.
Henry DARK (1865-1929)
1093v.
Samuel “Sam” DARK (1866-1921)
1094vi.
Fanny Andrews DARK (1869-1919)
In Q1 1875 when Sarah Ann was 36, she second married John HOPKINS in Newport Wales. Born in 1848 in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales. John died in Stockton, NSW, Australia, on 14 Apr 1936; he was 88. Buried in Sandgate Cemetery. Occupation: Blacksmith.
- Son of Edward Hopkins and Mrs Ann/Mary Williams
- John Hopkins died 14 Apr 1936.
John's death reg 1936 at Stockton dist, NSW (NSW reg 8880).
RESEARCH NOTES:
- several possibilities in 1891 Australian census (only head of household and numbers in household listed) [ancestry.com]:
* Name: John Hopkins
Locality: Plattsburg
Sub-District: P Plattsburg Central
County: Northumberland
District: Newcastle
Source Citation: State Archives NSW: NRS 683, Book 16, Item [2/8422], Roll 2536
From film: line 150, living on Mary Street, 2 males, 3 females in household.
* Name: John Hopkins
Locality: Carrington
Sub-District: M Carrington
County: Northumberland
District: Newcastle
Source Citation: State Archives NSW: NRS 683, Book 13, Item [2/8422], Roll 2535
From film: line 380, living on Young Street, 6 males, 3 females in household
* others listed in other areas of NSW, a couple more as John, a number more as J
- 1901 NSW census had the same limitations - name of head of household + body count! Possible entries (not too many in Newcastle):
* Name: J Hopkin
Locality: Carrington [this is where Sarah died in 1907]
Sub-District: E Carrington
County: Northumberland
District: Newcastle
Source Citation: State Archives NSW: NRS 685, Item [2/8456], Fiche 1109-1116
From film: line 268, probably Gray St, 1 male, 2 females
* Name: John Hopkins
Locality: Cardiff
Sub-District: Y Teralba South
County: Northumberland
District: Newcastle
From filem: line 364, Cardiff Road, 7 males + 5 females
* Name: J Hopkins
Locality: Wallsend
Sub-District: O1 Wallsend
County: Northumberland
District: Newcastle
From film: line 153, Metcalfe Street, 2 males, 4? females (faint and blurred).
- Son of Edward Hopkins and Mrs Ann/Mary Williams
- John Hopkins died 14 Apr 1936.
John's death reg 1936 at Stockton dist, NSW (NSW reg 8880).
RESEARCH NOTES:
- several possibilities in 1891 Australian census (only head of household and numbers in household listed) [ancestry.com]:
* Name: John Hopkins
Locality: Plattsburg
Sub-District: P Plattsburg Central
County: Northumberland
District: Newcastle
Source Citation: State Archives NSW: NRS 683, Book 16, Item [2/8422], Roll 2536
From film: line 150, living on Mary Street, 2 males, 3 females in household.
* Name: John Hopkins
Locality: Carrington
Sub-District: M Carrington
County: Northumberland
District: Newcastle
Source Citation: State Archives NSW: NRS 683, Book 13, Item [2/8422], Roll 2535
From film: line 380, living on Young Street, 6 males, 3 females in household
* others listed in other areas of NSW, a couple more as John, a number more as J
- 1901 NSW census had the same limitations - name of head of household + body count! Possible entries (not too many in Newcastle):
* Name: J Hopkin
Locality: Carrington [this is where Sarah died in 1907]
Sub-District: E Carrington
County: Northumberland
District: Newcastle
Source Citation: State Archives NSW: NRS 685, Item [2/8456], Fiche 1109-1116
From film: line 268, probably Gray St, 1 male, 2 females
* Name: John Hopkins
Locality: Cardiff
Sub-District: Y Teralba South
County: Northumberland
District: Newcastle
From filem: line 364, Cardiff Road, 7 males + 5 females
* Name: J Hopkins
Locality: Wallsend
Sub-District: O1 Wallsend
County: Northumberland
District: Newcastle
From film: line 153, Metcalfe Street, 2 males, 4? females (faint and blurred).
They had the following children:
1095i.
John HOPKINS (Died as Infant) (1874-1874)
1096ii.
David John HOPKINS (1875-1924)
1097iii.
Amelia May HOPKINS (1879-1947)
1098iv.
Jessie M. HOPKINS (Died as Child) (1881-1883)
665. Thomas ANDREWS (Thomas ANDREW8, Honour GRIGG7, Elizabeth CORNISH6, Mary ADAMS5, John4, Mary NEALE3, John2, Bennett1) 
. Born on 6 Feb 1842 in Kilkhampton, Stratton Registration District, Cornwall, England. Thomas died in Newport, Wales, UK, on 31 Dec 1891; he was 49.
- Thomas Andrews b 1842 Kilkhampton. ... called himself Andrews as did his descendants. He married Elizabeth Gronow b. 1844 Ebbw Vale Wales. They had 11 children. Thomas drowned New Yrs Eve 1892 (in Newport Harbour ). He was intoxicated and fell over board at a party. Before his death he was a M. Mariner then later a Berthing Master. Lived Newport Wales from a child.
- 1842: Thomas is listed on the Birth Index for Stratton, Cornwall 1842 Jan,Feb,Mar Vol. 9 Page 307. Birth reg (as Thomas Andrew) Mar qtr 1842 at Stratton Dist (ref FreeBMD).
- 1851 Census St. Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales: Thomas Andrews, Son, 9, born 1842, living with widowed mother and sisters Fanny 14 and Sarah Ann 12
Ref 1851 census. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of St Woollos. Town of Newport. Address: 19 Potter Street, Newport.
Together with his mother and 2 siblings:
Thomas Andrews. Son. Age 9. Scholar. Born Cornwall, Kilkhampton.
- 1868?: Marriage: Thomas married Elizabeth Gronow from Ebbw Vale, in 1861 OR likely married in 1868 as marriage was registered Jun (Q2) 1868 in Newport, Monmouth, Wales:
Marriages Jun 1868 (4 on page, listed alphabetically by last name)
> Andrew Thomas Newport M. 11a 233
> GRONOW Elizabeth Newport M. 11a 233
> SELF Sarah Ann Newport, M. 11a 233
> White George Newport Mon 11a 233
1868: lived in St Woolos, Newport Wales
- 1871 census - they had moved to 8, Albion Street and Thomas was a Mariner he was now 29 years of age, they had a daughter Alice age 2.
Ref 1871 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil parish of St Woollos. Registration district of Newport. Address: Albion Street, St Woollos, Newport.
Together with dau Alice (2):
Thomas Andrews. Head. M. Age 29. Mariner. Born Cornwall Kilkhampton.
Elizabeth Andrews. Wife. M. Age 27. Born Monmouthshire Ebbw Vale.
[According to another researcher” “Pill [district of Newport] is where the family settled. Albion Street is no longer there just the blue house remains - photo shows “Albion Street middle, level crossing right “.]
- 1876: Dockgate Man, lived at 10 Frederick Street, Newport, Wales
- 1878-80: Berthing Master, lived at 14 Frederick Street, Newport, Wales
- In 1881 they lived at 10, Frederick Street and Thomas had now become a Berthing Master at Newport Docks.
- 1881 Census Dwelling: 10 Frederick St
Census Place: St Woollos, Monmouth, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342267 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5266 Folio 85 Page 16
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Theos. ANDREWS M 39 M Rilhampton, Cornwall, England Rel: Head Occ: Berthing Master
Elizbt. ANDREWS M 37 F Ebbw Vale, Monmouth, England Rel: Wife
Alice ANDREWS 12 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Sarah ANDREWS 9 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Lilly ANDREWS 8 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Jessie ANDREWS 6 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Maud M. ANDREWS 4 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Mildred ANDREWS 2 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Gertrude E. ANDREWS 4 m F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
- The actual area [of Newport, Monmouth] where they lived is known as Pillgwenly commonly referred to as Pill. Right next to the Docks.
- 1882 Register of electors document shows Thmas Andrew living 10 Frederick Street, Pillgwenlly, occupying two sitting rooms on ground floor, and two bedrooms on first floor. The name and residence of the landlord is Elizabeth Gronow, also of 10 Frederick Street - his wife’s mother.
- 1884-85: Dockman, lived at 10 Frederick Street, Newport, Wales
- 1886-92: Berthing Master, lived at 7 Frederick Street, Newport, Wales
- 1891 - the family lived at 7, Frederick Street,. Berthing Master (Newport Docks) with latest children; Gerdrude Ethel 1881, Thomas George 1883, Frederick Charles. 1885, Ada Jane 1887. [and other family members]:
Ada Jane Andrews, 4
Elizabeth Andrews, 48
Frederick Andrews, 6
Gertrude Andrews, 10
Jessie Andrews, 16
Lillie Andrews, 18
Maud Mary Andrews, 14
Mildred Andrews, 12
Sarah Ann Andrews, 20
Thomas Andrews, 49
Thomas Andrews, 8
- 1891 DEATH: On the eve of December 31st 1891 while bringing in the New Year Thomas is drunk and fall's over board and drowned. Thomas was a mariner, probably Merchant Navy, and ended his career as a Berthing Master/Harbourmaster in Newport, Mon. He apparently died after celebrating rather too heavily and falling overboard from a ship and drowning. Thomas drowned New Yrs Eve 1892[?]. He was intoxicated and fell over board at a party. Before his death he was a M. Mariner then later a Berthing Master. Lived Newport Wales from a child. Research tends to suggest that Thomas actually died earlier than the advertised date.....given his death being registered in December 1891. I suppose that New Years' Eve makes for a better anecdote... Death certificate not yet obtained.
- Thomas Andrews' death reg Dec qtr 1891 at Newport M. dist aged 50 (ref FreeBMD).
Deaths Dec 1891
Andrews Thomas 50 Newport, M. 11a 172
RESEARCH NOTES:
- Monmouth was Wales in 1850's onwards. On the border with England, so may be referred to as part of England, even in the 1881 census.
- in 1891 census, listed as born in Bude, Cornwall, England
- death year listed as both 1891 and 1892
- this might be him (no image or further ino available on familysearch)
"United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941"
name: Thomas Andrews
event type: Military Service
event year range: 1853-1857
event place: United Kingdom
birthplace: Cornwall
birth year: 1840
gs film number: 1562728
digital folder number: 004650211
. Born on 6 Feb 1842 in Kilkhampton, Stratton Registration District, Cornwall, England. Thomas died in Newport, Wales, UK, on 31 Dec 1891; he was 49.- Thomas Andrews b 1842 Kilkhampton. ... called himself Andrews as did his descendants. He married Elizabeth Gronow b. 1844 Ebbw Vale Wales. They had 11 children. Thomas drowned New Yrs Eve 1892 (in Newport Harbour ). He was intoxicated and fell over board at a party. Before his death he was a M. Mariner then later a Berthing Master. Lived Newport Wales from a child.
- 1842: Thomas is listed on the Birth Index for Stratton, Cornwall 1842 Jan,Feb,Mar Vol. 9 Page 307. Birth reg (as Thomas Andrew) Mar qtr 1842 at Stratton Dist (ref FreeBMD).
- 1851 Census St. Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales: Thomas Andrews, Son, 9, born 1842, living with widowed mother and sisters Fanny 14 and Sarah Ann 12
Ref 1851 census. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil Parish of St Woollos. Town of Newport. Address: 19 Potter Street, Newport.
Together with his mother and 2 siblings:
Thomas Andrews. Son. Age 9. Scholar. Born Cornwall, Kilkhampton.
- 1868?: Marriage: Thomas married Elizabeth Gronow from Ebbw Vale, in 1861 OR likely married in 1868 as marriage was registered Jun (Q2) 1868 in Newport, Monmouth, Wales:
Marriages Jun 1868 (4 on page, listed alphabetically by last name)
> Andrew Thomas Newport M. 11a 233
> GRONOW Elizabeth Newport M. 11a 233
> SELF Sarah Ann Newport, M. 11a 233
> White George Newport Mon 11a 233
1868: lived in St Woolos, Newport Wales
- 1871 census - they had moved to 8, Albion Street and Thomas was a Mariner he was now 29 years of age, they had a daughter Alice age 2.
Ref 1871 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Civil parish of St Woollos. Registration district of Newport. Address: Albion Street, St Woollos, Newport.
Together with dau Alice (2):
Thomas Andrews. Head. M. Age 29. Mariner. Born Cornwall Kilkhampton.
Elizabeth Andrews. Wife. M. Age 27. Born Monmouthshire Ebbw Vale.
[According to another researcher” “Pill [district of Newport] is where the family settled. Albion Street is no longer there just the blue house remains - photo shows “Albion Street middle, level crossing right “.]
- 1876: Dockgate Man, lived at 10 Frederick Street, Newport, Wales
- 1878-80: Berthing Master, lived at 14 Frederick Street, Newport, Wales
- In 1881 they lived at 10, Frederick Street and Thomas had now become a Berthing Master at Newport Docks.
- 1881 Census Dwelling: 10 Frederick St
Census Place: St Woollos, Monmouth, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342267 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5266 Folio 85 Page 16
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Theos. ANDREWS M 39 M Rilhampton, Cornwall, England Rel: Head Occ: Berthing Master
Elizbt. ANDREWS M 37 F Ebbw Vale, Monmouth, England Rel: Wife
Alice ANDREWS 12 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Sarah ANDREWS 9 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Lilly ANDREWS 8 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Jessie ANDREWS 6 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Maud M. ANDREWS 4 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Mildred ANDREWS 2 F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
Gertrude E. ANDREWS 4 m F Newport, Monmouth, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
- The actual area [of Newport, Monmouth] where they lived is known as Pillgwenly commonly referred to as Pill. Right next to the Docks.
- 1882 Register of electors document shows Thmas Andrew living 10 Frederick Street, Pillgwenlly, occupying two sitting rooms on ground floor, and two bedrooms on first floor. The name and residence of the landlord is Elizabeth Gronow, also of 10 Frederick Street - his wife’s mother.
- 1884-85: Dockman, lived at 10 Frederick Street, Newport, Wales
- 1886-92: Berthing Master, lived at 7 Frederick Street, Newport, Wales
- 1891 - the family lived at 7, Frederick Street,. Berthing Master (Newport Docks) with latest children; Gerdrude Ethel 1881, Thomas George 1883, Frederick Charles. 1885, Ada Jane 1887. [and other family members]:
Ada Jane Andrews, 4
Elizabeth Andrews, 48
Frederick Andrews, 6
Gertrude Andrews, 10
Jessie Andrews, 16
Lillie Andrews, 18
Maud Mary Andrews, 14
Mildred Andrews, 12
Sarah Ann Andrews, 20
Thomas Andrews, 49
Thomas Andrews, 8
- 1891 DEATH: On the eve of December 31st 1891 while bringing in the New Year Thomas is drunk and fall's over board and drowned. Thomas was a mariner, probably Merchant Navy, and ended his career as a Berthing Master/Harbourmaster in Newport, Mon. He apparently died after celebrating rather too heavily and falling overboard from a ship and drowning. Thomas drowned New Yrs Eve 1892[?]. He was intoxicated and fell over board at a party. Before his death he was a M. Mariner then later a Berthing Master. Lived Newport Wales from a child. Research tends to suggest that Thomas actually died earlier than the advertised date.....given his death being registered in December 1891. I suppose that New Years' Eve makes for a better anecdote... Death certificate not yet obtained.
- Thomas Andrews' death reg Dec qtr 1891 at Newport M. dist aged 50 (ref FreeBMD).
Deaths Dec 1891
Andrews Thomas 50 Newport, M. 11a 172
RESEARCH NOTES:
- Monmouth was Wales in 1850's onwards. On the border with England, so may be referred to as part of England, even in the 1881 census.
- in 1891 census, listed as born in Bude, Cornwall, England
- death year listed as both 1891 and 1892
- this might be him (no image or further ino available on familysearch)
"United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941"
name: Thomas Andrews
event type: Military Service
event year range: 1853-1857
event place: United Kingdom
birthplace: Cornwall
birth year: 1840
gs film number: 1562728
digital folder number: 004650211
On 16 Apr 1868 when Thomas was 26, he married Elizabeth GRONOW in St Woolos Parish Church, Newport, Monmouth, Wales, UK. Born on 25 Dec 1844 in Ebbw Vale, Bedwelty, Monmouthshire, Wales, UK. Elizabeth died in Newport, Monmouth, Wales, UK, in Mar 1919; she was 74.
- 1843 birth registration [freeBMD]: Births Mar 1843
Gronow Elizabeth Abergavenny vol 26, page 38
The [registration] district Abergavenny spans the boundaries of the counties of Herefordshire and Monmouthshire
- 1893: Mrs. Elizabeth Andrews lived at 7 Frederick Street, Newport, Wales
- 1894: lived at 11 Wheller St, Newport
- 1895-1897: lived at 10 Station Street, Newport
- 1898-1906: lived at 13 Vivian Road
- 1901 see's the Andrews Family living at 13, Vivian Road children are:
Lillian 28 yrs; Jessie 25 yrs; Mildred 22 yrs; Gertrude 19 yrs; Frederick C. 16 yrs; Thomas G. 18 yrs; Ada J. 14 yrs;
- 1901 census Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales (Maindee St John parish, ed 55, household 260) on Ancestry:
Elizabeth Andrews, 57, head,
Adah Andrews, 14
Gertrude Andrews, 19
Jessie Andrews, 25
Lillian Andrews, 28
Mildred Andrews, 22
[no Thomas listed]
- 1902 Elizabeth now moves into 48, Corporation Road
- 1911 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Parish of Newport. Registration district of Newport. Address: 48 Corporation Road Newport.
Together with daughter Kate Mildred & husband & daughter, and children Lilian (37), Jessie (25), Frederick (26), Ada Alice (24) & grandson Victor Stanley Thomas (13):
Elizabeth Andrews. Head. Widow. Age 67. Born Victoria Mon. Children 11 born 9 alive 2 dead.
This was the family that looked after Stanley after his mother Maud Mary left.
RESEARCH NOTES:
- Ebbw Vales is in Gwent, Wales [Google Earth] - Gwent was Monmouthshire pre 1974
- Ebbw Vale is also called Bedwellty [genuki]. Abergavenny is also in Monmouthshire - which place was she born?
- Another source says she was born in the village of Victoria, which was at the lower end of Ebbw Vale overlooking the steelworks
- born 1843 or 1844? or late 1842?
- couldn’t find in 1881 census in UK
- no exact match for birth/christening in familysearch.org - 1 IGI entry (not vital stats) says born 1844 Penmark, Glamorgan, Wales, daughter of Thomas and Hannah Gronow. No marriage matches. Later searched freeBMD just under Elizabeth Gronow and found them both on same page - his last name Andrew (no “s”).
- died 1919? Looked for her death between 1901 and 1930 in Monmouthshire, Wales - 3 possiblities in Newport M :
> Deaths Dec 1910 Andrews Elizabeth 77 Newport M. 11a 130 [born 1833 - not this Elizabeth]
> Deaths Mar 1919 Andrews Elizabeth 75 Newport M. 11a 340 [born 1844]
> Deaths Jun 1925 Andrews Elizabeth E 82 Newport M 11a 299 [born 1843]
- 1920 48, Coporation Road; Frederick Andrews, Austin and Mildred Gwynn, Ada and Albert Hillman. [has Elizabeth died?]
- 1843 birth registration [freeBMD]: Births Mar 1843
Gronow Elizabeth Abergavenny vol 26, page 38
The [registration] district Abergavenny spans the boundaries of the counties of Herefordshire and Monmouthshire
- 1893: Mrs. Elizabeth Andrews lived at 7 Frederick Street, Newport, Wales
- 1894: lived at 11 Wheller St, Newport
- 1895-1897: lived at 10 Station Street, Newport
- 1898-1906: lived at 13 Vivian Road
- 1901 see's the Andrews Family living at 13, Vivian Road children are:
Lillian 28 yrs; Jessie 25 yrs; Mildred 22 yrs; Gertrude 19 yrs; Frederick C. 16 yrs; Thomas G. 18 yrs; Ada J. 14 yrs;
- 1901 census Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales (Maindee St John parish, ed 55, household 260) on Ancestry:
Elizabeth Andrews, 57, head,
Adah Andrews, 14
Gertrude Andrews, 19
Jessie Andrews, 25
Lillian Andrews, 28
Mildred Andrews, 22
[no Thomas listed]
- 1902 Elizabeth now moves into 48, Corporation Road
- 1911 census. WALES. Monmouthshire, Wales. Parish of Newport. Registration district of Newport. Address: 48 Corporation Road Newport.
Together with daughter Kate Mildred & husband & daughter, and children Lilian (37), Jessie (25), Frederick (26), Ada Alice (24) & grandson Victor Stanley Thomas (13):
Elizabeth Andrews. Head. Widow. Age 67. Born Victoria Mon. Children 11 born 9 alive 2 dead.
This was the family that looked after Stanley after his mother Maud Mary left.
RESEARCH NOTES:
- Ebbw Vales is in Gwent, Wales [Google Earth] - Gwent was Monmouthshire pre 1974
- Ebbw Vale is also called Bedwellty [genuki]. Abergavenny is also in Monmouthshire - which place was she born?
- Another source says she was born in the village of Victoria, which was at the lower end of Ebbw Vale overlooking the steelworks
- born 1843 or 1844? or late 1842?
- couldn’t find in 1881 census in UK
- no exact match for birth/christening in familysearch.org - 1 IGI entry (not vital stats) says born 1844 Penmark, Glamorgan, Wales, daughter of Thomas and Hannah Gronow. No marriage matches. Later searched freeBMD just under Elizabeth Gronow and found them both on same page - his last name Andrew (no “s”).
- died 1919? Looked for her death between 1901 and 1930 in Monmouthshire, Wales - 3 possiblities in Newport M :
> Deaths Dec 1910 Andrews Elizabeth 77 Newport M. 11a 130 [born 1833 - not this Elizabeth]
> Deaths Mar 1919 Andrews Elizabeth 75 Newport M. 11a 340 [born 1844]
> Deaths Jun 1925 Andrews Elizabeth E 82 Newport M 11a 299 [born 1843]
- 1920 48, Coporation Road; Frederick Andrews, Austin and Mildred Gwynn, Ada and Albert Hillman. [has Elizabeth died?]
They had the following children:
1099i.
Alice ANDREWS (Died as Child) (1869-1886)
1100ii.
Ada Jane ANDREWS (Died as Infant) (1870-1871)
1101iii.
Sarah Ann ANDREWS (1871-~1904)
1102iv.
Lillian “Lilly” ANDREWS (~1873-)
1103v.
Jessie ANDREWS (1875-)
1104vi.
Maud Mary ANDREWS (1877-1951)
1105vii.
Kate Mildred ANDREWS (1879-1969)
1106viii.
Gertrude Ethel ANDREWS (1881-1973)
1107ix.
Thomas Clifford “Tom” ANDREWS (1882-1956)
1108x.
Frederick Charles ANDREWS (1884-)
1109xi.
Ada Alice ANDREWS (1886-)